GottaLaff ,
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Warning as First American Dolphin Diagnosed With Highly Pathogenic Bird Flu https://www.newsweek.com/warning-first-ever-american-dolphin-diagnosed-bird-flu-1895121

Snowshadow , (edited )
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@GottaLaff 1/2
MSM is failing us.
H5N1, bird flu has mutated and jumped to mammals like minks, seals, foxes, skunks, raccoon, pigs and of course is in birds.
.You should never handle dead birds or wildlife.
It is in cattle. It has been found in raw milk and pieces of it in pasteurized milk.
Switching to a plant based milk alternative is an option.
If you have stopped wearing a mask you should begin again because bird flu is a virus, like covid.
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Snowshadow ,
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@GottaLaff
2/2

People working with cattle and poultry have died from H5N1.
Don't wait for politicians and MSM to warn you of the dangers of H5N1.

H5N1 is a virus.

Wear a mask.

kristen_d ,
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@Snowshadow @GottaLaff Why I'm #vegan ....

Wake the fuck up people

Snowshadow ,
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@kristen_d I went back to being vegan. It is also better for the planet and it's easier to keep my weight down.@GottaLaff

kristen_d ,
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@Snowshadow @GottaLaff Fabulous! Everyone wins when humans realize their rightful place on #earth

Thank you. ❤️

PeanutBurnham ,
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@kristen_d @Snowshadow @GottaLaff Brava! Kindness to all - it’s as good for our souls as not eating our fellow beings is for our bodies.

kristen_d ,
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@PeanutBurnham @Snowshadow @GottaLaff This, a thousand percent. When we do, we are giving in to arrogant superiority and its toxic justifications while ingesting fear and anxiety and all its accompanying shock endocrines of our victims. That doesn't even begin to address the filth that is factory-farmed flesh.

PeanutBurnham ,
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@kristen_d @Snowshadow @GottaLaff The evil and cruelty is beyond intolerable. (So much so that - I apologize for my weakness, but I know this from experience - I just can’t look at it or discuss it in detail without derailing my mental health. I give to organizations that fight it but can’t look at their mailings.) Greed is one reason it’s hard to fight; another is the fallacy of the zero-sum equation. No, there isn’t a limited amount of compassion in the universe, all of which should be spent on humans. Every act of compassion lays the groundwork for more.

Snowshadow ,
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@PeanutBurnham I don't see that as a weakness...it is a strength.@kristen_d @GottaLaff

GottaLaff OP ,
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kristen_d ,
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@PeanutBurnham @Snowshadow @GottaLaff Not weak - also not desensitized which is a gift in these callous times. I, too, have to limit my exposure to triggering imagery because of its destabilizing effect on my perspective and the accompanying depression. Take good care of yourself.

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deborahh ,
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@Snowshadow @GottaLaff thx. I just changed my grocery order. Almond milk, not dairy.

Snowshadow ,
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@deborahh
There are many options. Almond, cashew, oat, soy, pea, coconut, hemp, rice (white and brown)...probably some I forgot.

And for Canadians, there are Canadian made options...Natur-a is a Quebec company.
Here's a handy guide to plant based milk alternatives:

https://foodrevolution.org/blog/milk-substitutes/

@GottaLaff

GottaLaff OP ,
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@Snowshadow @deborahh Just be aware that the calcium additive in plant based milk are not being absorbed into bones like they should, and can build up in arteries and cause heart issues.

I drank almond milk for years before my nutritionist son informed me.

deborahh ,
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@GottaLaff @Snowshadow Thx! I didn't know that.

I've also heard that dairy milk calcium isn't as well absorbed as once assumed. For kids, of course, it matters. But I stopped getting my calcium from milk many years ago ¯\ _ (ツ)_/¯

GottaLaff OP ,
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@deborahh Where do you get it from? @Snowshadow

deborahh ,
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@Snowshadow @GottaLaff a nutritionist I follow pointed out that the ones made from grains (oat, rice) are carb-heavy and can mess with blood sugar/insulin. So I went for almond - though I had to hunt to find one that''s UNsweetened.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@deborahh Again, almond milk calcium is an additive that doesn't absorb in a healthy way for bones or heart. @Snowshadow

stephanie ,
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@GottaLaff @deborahh @Snowshadow do you have a study for that? I can't find a peer review saying that

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/318612#how-to-make

GottaLaff OP ,
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@stephanie @deborahh @Snowshadow My son is has a Masters in Nutritional Science. My dr. agreed with him. If you do a deep dive in different calciums (carbonate vs citrate, for ex) you'll find out what is the best. Citrate. I only take citrate supplements, but supplements are to be taken only in limited quantities, again per my dr.

Natural calcium absorbs better.

Carbonate is iffy.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/heart-attack/expert-answers/calcium-supplements/faq-20058352

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7276095/

deborahh ,
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@GottaLaff @stephanie @Snowshadow so many people take carbonate, which is like ground stone, right? Cheap, but not assimilable. The new mineral formulations with biglycinate are also good. My iron and mag are -biglycinate, and my doc likes that.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@deborahh Ooo, I'll check that out. @stephanie @Snowshadow

stephanie ,
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@GottaLaff @deborahh @Snowshadow thanks for the details, I'll look into that!

And just in case you don't know, nutritionist is an unregulated title in Canada. So the reactions can be more negative :)

GottaLaff OP ,
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@stephanie I agree, actually. But because he's my son and I trust him, and because he's invested because he has Crohn's and does amazing research into nutrition, I give him more credit than the average nutritionist. He got his master's in nutritional science, so he's not a nutritionist. He's a nutritional scientist (not practicing). @deborahh @Snowshadow

GottaLaff OP ,
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@stephanie So all I can do is offer up what my son has told me after having done a deep dive on his own. And since my dr. agreed, I stick with citrate until something new comes out. @deborahh @Snowshadow

stephanie ,
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@GottaLaff @deborahh @Snowshadow I also missed that it was your son and only saw nutritionist, which can be anyone with no education in Canada. I really didn't mean to insult your son

GottaLaff OP ,
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@stephanie You did not! Lol, no prob. @deborahh @Snowshadow

stephanie ,
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@GottaLaff @deborahh @Snowshadow lol it's good, everything was resolved quickly! :) I totally agree about calcium supplements, I remember seeing that before (the different place they come from).

I'm assuming that for someone who doesn't use a lot of milk, it would still be pretty fine to use almond milk (cow's milk is also not as good as we once thought it was). Heh, everything in moderation!

GottaLaff OP ,
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@stephanie @deborahh @Snowshadow I'm ONLY referring to calcium intake, no other reason to stop using plant milk. I only drink milk in quantity for the calcium.

ottaross ,
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@GottaLaff @stephanie @deborahh @Snowshadow yoghurt is a good option too.

Apparently it's well tolerated even for people with lactose intolerance, since the culture greatly reduces the lactose.

GottaLaff OP ,
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Snowshadow ,
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ottaross ,
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Originallyrose ,
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@GottaLaff
Milk no longer appealed to me after I quit gluten due to a late life diagnosis of celiac-sprue. My calcium levels remained quite high because I eat so much broccoli. I do love buttermilk and yogurt, which I started eating again a couple years ago, but the only milk I use is in my tea.
@stephanie @deborahh @Snowshadow

deborahh ,
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@GottaLaff yep, just checked the almond milk I ordered. Calcium carbonate. Good call. I'll see what other options I can find.
@Snowshadow I am looking at your article now.

deborahh ,
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@GottaLaff @Snowshadow well, I found 2 oat options without added calcium. \o/

Silk branr: oat and hemp half-and-half! ✔
and
Elmhurst oat creamer (very expensive, and went bad in my fridge very fast).

🤞

GottaLaff OP ,
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@deborahh Then what's the calcium content? None? And carbs? @Snowshadow

Snowshadow ,
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@GottaLaff You can find the nutritional content of every brand online.@deborahh

GottaLaff OP ,
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@Snowshadow I know. I've looked up every one of them. All use calcium carbonate. @deborahh

Snowshadow ,
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@GottaLaff @deborahh
Moderation. that is the key.

deborahh ,
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@GottaLaff @Snowshadow dunno. I'm not drinking it for the calcium, so I prefer one without that additive. When I drank soy milk, I also used a French brand without calcium (or sugar) added. It was just soy beans, water, salt (maybe added gum for texture?). It was lovely!

GottaLaff OP ,
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@deborahh If it's not for the calcium, I'd have no objection at all. I need the calcium though. @Snowshadow

Snowshadow ,
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@GottaLaff @deborahh
You might find this helpful:
Calcium content including they type used in various plant-based milks
https://www.godairyfree.org/health-info/dairy-free-calcium-fortification-plant-milk

GottaLaff OP ,
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Snowshadow ,
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@GottaLaff @deborahh You're welcome. Hope it helps.

deborahh ,
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@GottaLaff @Snowshadow so … I bought the Silk half-and-half "cream" (it's oat and coconut, no added calcium). Put it in my hot coffee and … it curdled? Oops, fridge door was ajar last night :-(

¯\ _ (ツ)_/¯ tasted normal, tho. Well, like oats, not cream. Will take some getting used to.

Snowshadow ,
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@deborahh
Curdled? I have left it out overnight and never had it curdle. That's odd.@GottaLaff

GottaLaff OP ,
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@Snowshadow @deborahh I never tried it.

I still stay away from the other milks due to fat content.

I have too many things to try to prevent, lol.

deborahh ,
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@GottaLaff @Snowshadow LOL. The fat content is what I'm looking for, I like the mouth-feel in my hot drinks. And I avoid the calcium additives. So between you and me we'll keep all the varieties in business 🤪

GottaLaff OP ,
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@deborahh Equal Opportunity Consumers! @Snowshadow

Snowshadow ,
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@deborahh Try Natur-a it is Canadian made and I never had a problem with it. Silk brand is over priced and watered down...all their products. If you can't get Natru-a try Earth's Own. Also, Silk brand is sold refrigerated , at least I have never seen it on the shelf. the other brands are shelf-stable so look on the regular shelves not the refrigerated section.
@GottaLaff

GottaLaff OP ,
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Snowshadow ,
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@GottaLaff Thanks for this. I wonder why I have Never seen it on grocery store shelves ,only in the fridge section. Odd. Maybe it isn't as shelf-stable as they claim.
Surely corps wouldn't lie.

@deborahh

GottaLaff OP ,
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@Snowshadow I have. It was one of 2, and I think the other one stopped now. @deborahh

Snowshadow ,
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@GottaLaff Thanks. I haven't in stores in my area...and that's several towns and a city nearby...maybe it is a local thing...

@deborahh

GottaLaff OP ,
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@Snowshadow Could very well be. @deborahh

ottaross ,
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@GottaLaff @deborahh @Snowshadow I like almond milk, but I'm not wild about the fact that it mostly comes from California, is a very water intensive crop, and heavy agricultural water use in California isn't a sustainable plan. Canada grows lots of oats so I like that too.

Snowshadow ,
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@deborahh Move away from almond milk if you can;t find it ...there are no problems finding unsweetened oat, soy and coconut milk. Look online.@GottaLaff

GottaLaff OP ,
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@Snowshadow @deborahh Problem with even unsweetened oat and coconut milk is fat content/cholesterol. And again, I am meticulous about the kind of calcium added to these.

I'd much prefer oat or coconut milk, but the carb content is higher too.

CStamp ,
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@deborahh @Snowshadow @GottaLaff "Oat milk contains a good quantity of fatty acids, protein, minerals, vitamins, dietary fiber, and a variety of micronutrients and provides several health benefits, as it reduces blood sugar, lowers cholesterol"

Drink what you like and can afford. ;)

If you have IG, two excellent, science-based nutrition accounts are: https://www.instagram.com/foodsciencebabe/
https://www.instagram.com/dr_idz/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10534225/#:~:text=Oat%20milk%20contains%20a%20good,et%20al.%2C%202018)

GottaLaff OP ,
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@CStamp @deborahh @Snowshadow Oat milk is great, but we've been discussing the types of calcium supplements included.

Some are less desirable. Carbonate is one of them.

CStamp ,
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@Snowshadow @GottaLaff Pasteurization is proving to work.

"In 2021, B.C. officials announced an end to mink farming across the province, saying the farms can be reservoirs for viruses and represent an ongoing danger to public health. All mink farm operations must be shut down, with all of the pelts sold, by April 2025."

A concern seems to be pigs and what happens if meat supply is infected.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@CStamp @Snowshadow Then how did they find virus particles in pasteurized milk samples?

Snowshadow ,
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@GottaLaff @CStamp By testing it. They found pieces of the virus.

CStamp ,
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@GottaLaff @Snowshadow They found pieces, not whole viruses, which is why the FDA says it's still safe to drink. Headlines are making people panic. Headlines should be focusing more on making those drinking raw milk reconsider their life choices. The pasteurization process is still making milk safe to drink.

Snowshadow ,
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@CStamp @GottaLaff No one is panicking. Simply taking precautions.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@Snowshadow You said it better than I did. As usual, lol @CStamp

CStamp ,
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@GottaLaff @Snowshadow Too bad air couldn't be pasteurized and that businesses took no steps to improve air quality.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@CStamp @Snowshadow Seriously!

GottaLaff OP ,
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@CStamp @Snowshadow Yes, I've done that reading, I'm aware.

I'm just saying that there's more work and research to be done here.

I don't like taking chances only to be found out later that oops, it's not safe enough.

Snowshadow ,
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@GottaLaff @CStamp Exactly. Look at covid.

Pineywoozle ,
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@GottaLaff In any situation you know you could be exposed, this is the one you want to wear a mask and shield for because its transmission is both airborne and fomite. ( has very low surface transmission) A benefit people miss w/ shields is they stop you from touching your eyes, nose & mouth. Shields work both as a barrier & that one extra step that helps you remember not to. Fomite virus transmission that results in illness is a numbers game. Less touching = less virus transmission.

shannonpersists ,
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@GottaLaff
They need to get on that s***!

mycotropic ,
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@GottaLaff

I need to read crofsblog daily again apparently;

https://crofsblogs.typepad.com/h5n1/

Formatting is horrible but this dude has you covered for influenza!

KanaMauna ,
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@GottaLaff
The thing to remember is that COVID ravages the immune system. Some researchers have called it AIDS Lite. All this mass reinfection society has decided to do for brunches has really opened the door for other diseases, including bird flu.

crcordray ,
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@GottaLaff WTH?!

jimvernon ,
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@GottaLaff Right now would be a good time to add H5N1 into the current flu vaccine mix...

GottaLaff OP ,
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@jimvernon They don't have a vax for this yet, I thought.

jimvernon ,
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@GottaLaff
"On the heels of a multi-state outbreak of highly pathogenic avian influenza A (H5N1) in dairy cows, experts told MedPage Today that a trio of H5N1 vaccines for humans has already been developed and approved in the U.S."
https://www.unmc.edu/healthsecurity/transmission/2024/04/24/is-there-a-vaccine-for-h5n1-influenza/

GottaLaff OP ,
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@jimvernon Oh, never mind: "The FDA has approved a vaccine designed to protect against the avian flu, but the vaccine isn’t currently available to the public. Experts recommend that the vaccine be used if H5N1 begins to spread among people."

jimvernon ,
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@GottaLaff Yeah, I'm like, make it available now so we don't have to rush it out to everyone if the shit hits the fan.

anarchic_teapot ,
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@GottaLaff They have First Ladies and Second Gentlemen, now they have First Dolphins as well?

BlueWaver22 ,
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@GottaLaff OH crap....a mammal. Not a good sign. Did you see this? Don't agree with his opinion on all govt but there are very valid points here...I was about to finally stop wearing a mask...but nah, I'm used to it now....always wear in stores, drs offices, etc

https://www.okdoomer.io/worried-about-bird-flu-welcome-to-the-party-pal-youre-late/

GottaLaff OP ,
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@BlueWaver22 I never stopped, never will.

BlueWaver22 ,
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@GottaLaff TY! Same. This new info stopped my starting to get a bit lazy! Getting ready to fly again for first time since Jan and Feb so will def be masking through it all! Anyone know if we should be re-boosting for Covid, too? My last at end of Oct? It might be time.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@BlueWaver22 Yes, we're supposed to. We're getting ours in a week or so.

timo21 ,
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@GottaLaff This event gives a new meaning to 'sleeping with the fishes'

Davida_Taylor ,
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@GottaLaff
Meaning: We, the Humans around here, are in deep trouble.
Just thinking of the Covid-19 fiasco, we are not ready for this.
( maybe never will be either )
Herd Immunity become the thinning of the herd.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@Davida_Taylor This is even deadlier to humans.

GiddingsMJ ,
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@GottaLaff I'm not sure we know that it is more deadly than Covid-19. Did you see some published evidence?

GottaLaff OP ,
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@GiddingsMJ I did, but can't remember where. I read a credible post that it kills 50% of those who contract it.

GiddingsMJ ,
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@GottaLaff It could be that the number of known human cases is so small that it is yet to be determined how deadly it is to humans.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@GiddingsMJ Maybe. BBC: "Relatively few people have caught the virus so far, but it has had a high mortality rate in those that do: more than 50% of people known to become infected have died. "

GiddingsMJ ,
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@GottaLaff There it is. Thank you.

kimlockhartga ,
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@GottaLaff @GiddingsMJ the last article I saw said that 463 out of 889 cases resulted in death over the past ten years, from 23 reporting countries. Mortality rates vary from 52 to 56 percent, depending on the time period you choose.

SETIEric ,
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@kimlockhartga @GottaLaff @GiddingsMJ Early estimates of death rates are often overstated. What it usually means is that 50% of the people who got sick enough to require testing and hospitalization die. As with COVID, most of the people infected probably don't get sick enough to realize they have something unusual, and therefore get excluded from the statistics.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@SETIEric Thanks for that perspective. @kimlockhartga @GiddingsMJ

SETIEric ,
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@GottaLaff @kimlockhartga @GiddingsMJ Not that I'm planning to take any chances should it become more common. Staying healthy is the best way not to die.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@SETIEric I never stopped using a mask for that reason @kimlockhartga @GiddingsMJ

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deborahh ,
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@GottaLaff @GiddingsMJ it was quoted in the BBC article I boosted this morning. 50% of those known to have contracted it. It feels like a soft stat. Still, worth noting.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@deborahh Right. They've said very few people have gotten it. And there's limited info. But still, it's worrisome. @GiddingsMJ

GiddingsMJ ,
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@GottaLaff @deborahh Oh, yes it is definitely worrisome. I just went through the links from that story through to the WHO and I have yet to find where the 50% death rate is reported. I have never stopped wearing a mask in public places.

deborahh ,
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@GiddingsMJ @GottaLaff I still mask too. People have forgotten Covid completely, look astonished that I'm masking. (Yesterday I even masked while walking on our main street - I have such bad pollen allergies, why not? LOL)

It means I don't attend any indoor networking event, especially with food. It's a shame. But this brain is the only one I've got and I really need it.

pmonks ,
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@deborahh @GiddingsMJ @GottaLaff NFL I’ve been wearing one at the climbing gym, originally because it’s indoors with poor ventilation, but more recently also because they do a great job of filtering out the chalk dust. It’s so nice to finish up and not be blowing black crap out of my nose for a few hours!

deborahh ,
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@pmonks @GiddingsMJ @GottaLaff once we get over being stared at, it does have advantages!

I also wear mine to vacuum, it reduces my horror at the pollen I'm kicking up (despite the hepa filter).

Edit: I have a [breathe] mask, and was using aerosol filters for covid. When I read the eildfire smoke forecast for Ontario this summer, I ordered some PM2.5 particulate filters. Better for pollen, as well. 👍

deborahh ,
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@pmonks @GiddingsMJ @GottaLaff my problem with being stared at is that (as a life coach) I'm highly attuned to body language and people's expressions. I try to turn it off in public, but it's harder when it's directed at me.
Yesterday, at a rally for the environment, I noticed I am getting better at ignoring it, and congratulated myself, LOL. It seems to become just part of life for me now.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@deborahh I've never stopped wearing masks, am often the only one in a store doing so, and never got a "look" from anyone. If I did, I wouldn't care. My health comes first, not their idiocy. @pmonks @GiddingsMJ

skydog ,
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@GottaLaff @deborahh @GiddingsMJ

Some older data, but chilling. Here is where the rubber might meet the road with mRNA vaccines, as in 'either get vaccinated, or face a 50/50 chance of surviving.'

No guessing which half of the herd gets thinned, in that case!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_mortality_from_H5N1

kimlockhartga ,
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@GottaLaff This is going to absolutely upend the ecosystem, which is already disrupted by the reduction of insects, a main food source for birds. This type A avian influenza has already made the jump to mammals so quickly. It's sobering.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@kimlockhartga Beyond sobering. Terrifying.

MorganV ,

@GottaLaff

And that's how it ends. Not with a bang, but a coughing fit.

Because we know that Team Yay Plague is going to refuse any mitigation attempts when (not if) it crosses over to humans.

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  • Hex ,
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    @philip_cardella @GottaLaff ...with like 50% mortality.

    kkarhan ,
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    @Hex @philip_cardella @GottaLaff well fuck...

    Now add to that people having #LongCovid and the immunosuppressive effectives of #Covid and the removal of previously existing protections and rules re: infectious diseases because we let #CovidDeniers dominate politricks and policymaking and I sincerely hope it'll just be 50% mortality and not worse...

    CatHerder ,
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    @GottaLaff
    Well fuckityfuckfuckfuck.
    This is probably how we end. Viruses.

    GottaLaff OP ,
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    @CatHerder That’s what George Carlin said decades ago

    CatHerder ,
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    @GottaLaff
    I saw him live several times when I lived in Detroit. He was fantastic.
    Maybe I heard him say that and it's finally registering. 😂

    GottaLaff OP ,
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    @CatHerder I knew him for a short time. He wanted me to be in a movie he wrote, so we’d hang out and just joke around and talk all the time, do voices to each other. He ran his black cornflake joke by me, and when I said i loved it, he told me he’d keep it.

    I adored him.

    The movie ended up being moved to Canada, so I never got to be part of it, but he did send me a photo of himself that said, “How nice that you’re mentally ill also.”

    CatHerder ,
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    @GottaLaff
    That's a sweet memory.
    I used to go see him and Arlo Guthrie every time they played. Always a good time.

    GottaLaff OP ,
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    @CatHerder His concerts were superb

    mycotropic ,
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    @GottaLaff @CatHerder

    "Yes mom, this is the thanks YOU GET"

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