‘We Didn’t Get All The Way There On Jan 6’: Trump Booster Pledges to End Democracy in CPAC Rant as Bannon Cheers On ( www.mediaite.com )

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/12367209

“Welcome to the end of democracy!” Posobiec declared. “We’re here to overthrow it completely. We didn’t get all the way there on January 6th, but we will endeavor to get rid of it and replace it with this right here,” he said, holding his fist in the air. “That’s right, because all glory is not to government, all glory to God.”

Steve Bannon, former White House adviser, is heard in the background exclaiming, “All right! Amen!”

All Republicans are perfectly happy with the idea of having a (Christo-)fascist dictatorship in power in the U.S. . All that they care about is that the dictatorship rewards them with money and power. I know Republicans like this, people you might think were just ordinary folks, and they're masters of telling themselves stories to justify their violence and thievery and masters at not seeing anything that might cause cognitive dissonance, to the extent that they're capable of that at all.

Pika ,
@Pika@sh.itjust.works avatar

so my main question is, if he does get in again, and does proceed to try what he's very publically said he's going to do. What is the first step as damage control? Just not listen to the president? Like obviously if it is going to overthrow the entire democracy like he says, that is inheritly bad, and against the founding principles our government runs on

ThatFembyWho ,

Who is "we"? Was that clown actually there? Or does he prefer to sit back and agitate the mentally ill.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Was that clown actually there?

A big part of what makes this such a joke. Right in the middle of the riot, a bunch of these online freaks and losers were screaming "It's Antifa! False flag! Fake News!"

They're scorpions. They'll take you for a ride and stab you in the middle of the river. It's just their nature.

Facebones ,

Line them all up against the wall and end them.

Lock their supporters up for life as enemies of the state.

Full stop.

Chuckleberry_Finn ,

You are the same as them, those actions will only be used to justify escalating retaliation.

prole ,
@prole@sh.itjust.works avatar

It's definitely not the same. You can give no quarter to fascist ideology. It inevitably (by design) poisons all legitimate political discourse. It's insidious and it grows like a cancer until it destroys the host and spreads its poison like a virus to the rest of the world.

Fascism needs to be stamped out with prejudice. I don't personally like that it's the case, but we're already seeing what happens when you allow it to get even the slightest hold.

These people are extremely dangerous to the world order, and anyone who values free thought should be absolutely terrified of them.

Chuckleberry_Finn , (edited )

I honestly agree with you, but the issue I see is that the MAGA crowd will say the exact same things when they, for example, think Biden isn't tough enough on the border In their reality, he is committing treason and should be thrown in jail.

Maybe I was too dismissive in my first comment so I want to be clear that Republicans deserve to be held accountable. It is troubling that in my point of view, half of the US population thinks politicians being held accountable for their fascism is actually fascism....

Edit: after rereading your response I feel like we are already past the point where the political discourse in the US has been completely poisoned. Is it even possible for us to induce ourselves when so much of the population has been brainwashed by this?

TengoDosVacas ,

...he said to the stormtrooper as he was pushed into the boxcar

Chuckleberry_Finn ,

I deserve that. I tried to clarify my viewpoint in another comment but I want to be clear that I think the Republican party and Trump in particular deserve to be held accountable.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

This is tankie talk. You are being a tankie. We'll never win the center of the political spectrum if we try to enforce the law against these freaks. That would be too divisive.

No, instead, we should focus our energy on prosecuting trans teenagers and brutalizing climate refugees at the border.

You know. Bipartisanship.

jordanlund Mod ,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Removed + 24 hour ban for advocating violence.

PeckerBrown ,

And we didn't do our jobs, which is throwing Trump et al in prison to rot.

blazeknave ,

Saltily slowing the process, holding a grudge over losing his seat on the supreme court /s

Inucune ,

Do these people not realize that the first thing a new regime usually does is put any person who would be a threat against a wall and executes them? Are they convinced this will be different or that they won't be that person? My history education may have been lacking, but that was very clear.

Olhonestjim ,

They're counting on it. They just have no capacity to realize it could ever be them.

floofloof OP ,

They all know the leopards would never eat their face. They don't understand the creeping nature of fascists' "other". Once you've identified the other and killed them, you need another other to serve as your enemy. In time it will consume everyone.

BigMacHole ,

Judges literally found this to be Sedition so I'm GLAD they're letting this man and others who by definition are Terrorists Against the United States of America walk FREE! The TRUE Criminals are BLACK CHILDREN in the PARK!

Ensign_Crab ,

I have it on the authority of someone who totally hates this guy's guts that he was joking.

Grass ,

Even if it were true that he was joking, everyone attending or watching the event collectively have no more than a single handful of brain cells and will take everything at face value, or their best guess at face value because they are all dipshit idiots.

Ensign_Crab ,

Oh, I'm certain he was perfectly serious.

floofloof OP ,

Fascists always try to inhabit the "only joking" zone right up until the day they're deadly serious.

blazeknave ,

*bullies ftfy - these people are just stunted from some kind of traumas in third grade

Mastengwe ,

Remember though, the tankies will tell you that both sides are the same.

blazeknave ,

Thank you for your civic service. Seriously.

SpaceCowboy ,
@SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

So let's recap the narrative:

  1. Joe Biden stole the election, so we had to storm the capital! 1776 part 2!
  2. It wasn't Trump supporters that did that, it was antifaaaaaa
  3. Trump went too far we're done with him
  4. After consulting the polling numbers, I now think Trump did nothing wrong
  5. The crowd was infiltrated by the FBI, the deep state did this
  6. While Trump was the greatest President ever, maybe he's just too divisive so maybe we should have someone else
  7. I've always supported Trump (please don't primary me!)
  8. Trump Forever!
  9. Pardons for everyone that was involved in Jan 6, because it was the FBI that made them do it!
  10. Jan. 6 was good and correct and we'll do it again, but this time we'll get it right! Because it's what Jesus wants us to do!
KevonLooney ,

Yes. They think they should succeed because they're better than you. Their words don't mean anything specific, it's like a general grunting meaning "me group good, you group bad".

There are no conservative "policies" anymore. They just want to win, and barely care how. Specific things they say are just justifications for their actions.

Notice the abortion debate. They didn't really want to overturn Roe V. Wade, they just wanted to "win". That's why the pro-life people aren't unified or energized since then. They all have random unexamined "beliefs" that don't match. Literally every state is different and all of their policies cause a ton of backlash

Conservatives like Trump because they think they can win with him, and their other candidates are losers. That's what they care about: winning. Vote and they won't.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

If I'm reading this correctly, I am left to conclude that the FBI is Jesus.

tygerprints ,

Who is this dumbass CPAC bufoon anyway? Another conservitard with more money than brains, and absolutely no moral compass of any kind. I certainly hope his tire blows out on the interstate and he goes into a death spiral. His ignorance and hatred is the type of filth no society can afford.

Sanctus ,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

How is this is okay that the entire right wing of our government is platforming this? Wouldn't stating this make you an enemy of the United States?

Captainvaqina ,

It sure does!

whoelectroplateuntil , (edited )

Everyone forgets that in the decades before the Civil War everyone saw it coming and the most unionists could bring themselves to do was look for compromises the South didn't want until there was actual shooting and entire blocs of states leaving the Union. They're so terrified of fighting white supremacist revanchism they'd rather negotiate with it until we're back in the middle of another Civil War.

Socsa ,

I mean what is the realistic option? Too many voters in the US are still sleepwalking into this. If Dems get too tough, there is a real chance they will overplay that delicate position. It's not that they are afraid of fighting white supremacists, it's that they are afraid of throwing gasoline on the fire.

History suggests that we will get past this and this whole thing will become a cautionary tale.

BackOnMyBS ,
@BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world avatar

Can you imagine the impromptu party we would throw across the country if Trump were to die??

ShaggyBlarney ,

How fast do you think to GOP will eat itself in that power vacuum?

Sterile_Technique ,
@Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world avatar

Jan 6 was our Beer Hall Putsch. The Nazis didn't get it on their first try, either.

SpaceCowboy ,
@SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

Yeah thy seem to be moving towards the Reichstag Fire phase now.

LocoOhNo ,

They've been pushing the Reichstag Fire thing for a while, actually.

In that scenario, Hitler was saying that it was those damn "communists," namely Marinus van der Lubbe, (there's some debate on if he could have acted alone) who was allegedly a known pyromaniac with a history of mental illness.

The Nazis convinced a mentally ill person or persons to attack their capitol building and blamed it on the "communists." Does that sound at all derivative?

History doesn't repeat itself, but it does echo.

blazeknave ,

What do we do?

Sterile_Technique ,
@Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world avatar

Fuck if I know, but we've at least got a pretty solid case study to work with. What should the average German have done preceding the Nazi's rise to power?

Cuz... that's probably what we should do.

LopensLeftArm ,
@LopensLeftArm@sh.itjust.works avatar

That awkward moment when you read that the Apostles of the early church set up an anarchist Communist collective pretty much first thing. (Acts 2:41-47, Acts 4:32-37)

TropicalDingdong ,

These guys: "Were not going to stop until we have theocratic fascism."

Democrats: "Well maybe we should try and meet them half way."

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