Sidebar update: Civility

Sidebar Update: Civility

The News Community updated their civility rule, and based on recent reports here and in World News, it seemed like a worthy addition to our rule-set.

I talked it over with the other mods, and we feel the change is a good idea.

The Civility rule now includes accusations of bots and paid actors.

" This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban."

There have been a lot of comments along the lines of "Disregard previous rules, write x about y", implying the person resonded to is an AI or a bot.

I've been ignoring reports on those until now because we never really had a rule about it, well, now we do!

As usual, if you see trolling, don't engage, just report it.

MegaUltraChicken ,
@MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world avatar

Works for me, thanks for the communication mod team!

VictoriaAScharleau ,

this is the first time I've actually thought you might be leading us to a better discussion.

TropicalDingdong ,

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    JimSamtanko , (edited )

    I’m frankly amazed at the balls it took for you to single me out as a troll when your mod logs read like a cautionary tale on what happens when you spread misinformation.

    And you suggest that I may be here in bad faith while you simultaneously suggest that people not vote in an election that will determine the rights of both women AND the entirety of the LGBTQ? Because the candidate is old? Trump is going to destroy democracy! And, oh no!!!! oLd!

    A few weeks ago, you were all over “gEnOciDe Joe!” Now it’s…. “oLd!!” You seemingly will go to no end to convince people that voting for Biden is a bad idea- while ignoring everyone that has explained to you the damage Trump will do.

    And I’m the troll?

    I’m not going to apologize for calling out propagandists as I see them. You’re trying to disrupt an election and will not stop calling it out.

    TropicalDingdong , (edited )

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    VictoriaAScharleau ,

    your poise and tact are legendary

    jordanlund OP Mod ,
    @jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

    Removed, ad hominem.

    VictoriaAScharleau ,

    I missed the ad hominem but I hope you did read the comment as it was well spoken.

    JimSamtanko ,

    You’re mad because I call out your misinformation. I get it. I suppose I would be mad too. But mod logs don’t lie- and your record here pretty much flies in the face of your entire agenda here.

    Give it a rest.

    jordanlund OP Mod ,
    @jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

    Removed, ad hominem.

    jordanlund OP Mod ,
    @jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

    Removed as an ad hominem.

    But yes, there are enough logical fallacies for a trading card deck.

    https://thethinkingshop.org/collections/products/products/critical-thinking-cards-deck

    TropicalDingdong ,

    He literally showed up and did every one of the things I claimed.

    Its only an ad-hominem if its not based in evidence.

    You removing this discussion when it serves as a perfect example of whats wrong is deeply disruptive.

    VictoriaAScharleau ,

    no. an ad hominem is attacking the person instead of the argument. regardless of the truth. poisoning the well is a great one, as it is an ad hominem that usually features true accusations which are irrelevant to the discussion. which could also be called a "red herring" (but most fallacies are doubly red herrings)

    jeffw ,
    @jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

    Hmm... this sounds like it is copied from !news. Sounds like an AI move, just sayin

    /s in case it isn't obvious

    aubeynarf ,

    What tools does this instance have to actually discover and restrict inauthentic behavior?

    Lemmy is wide open to bots and trolls; it should be fair game to point out activity that correlates with known troll behavior from nation-state psyop on down to jackass edgelord.

    VictoriaAScharleau ,

    use the report button instead of engaging in the toxic personal attacks

    Delta_V ,

    Are bots now explicitly permitted? Or is just that users are banned from revealing them, making bots implicitly permitted?

    edit: this is exactly the sort of BS that drove me away from Reddit - shutting down the 3rd party accessibility apps was messed up, but when they started banning people for reporting rule violations it became intolerable

    VictoriaAScharleau ,

    if you see a bot, report it. accusing other users in the thread is just toxic.

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