Supreme Court ruling shields presidents on official acts ( thehill.com )

We're watching US democracy dying right before our eyes.

If Biden and the Democrats had any mental coherency and a spine they'd be using this ruling to their advantage and fuck over conservatives before conservatives get into office to kill democracy and the opposition parties.

jordanlund Mod ,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Seems simple enough...

Biden's actions on the Southern border are official acts, he has immunity.

Trump's actions leading to 1/6 are not official acts, no immunity.

CobblerScholar ,

According to you, a person thinking logically and operating in good faith. All an authoritarian needs now is the judge, who can be appointed by the authoritarian themselveswith little oversight, to say whatever they want to do is an official act. We have an irrefutable king again in other words

lolola ,
@lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

This reminds me of another circular argument: Anything the president does can be considered "acting presidential" simply because they're president. You might've thought that shitposting on twitter was unbecoming of a world leader, but once a president does it, it's okay for a president to do.

An argument to protect a fool from public criticism now doubles as a defense against legal action.

Zaktor ,

That's theoretically the structure here. The case gets sent back for the first judge to decide what acts were official, time passes, they say none of them were, an appeal happens, time passes, the appeals court agrees, an appeal happens, time passes, Trump is president so the question is moot. Or they decide they were all official to kiss the ring. Far right cabal rule America indefinitely.

The key thing they needed to do was introduce a new question to the original court. Outright declaring it all immune might cause riots and electoral consequences, but saying "it might be immune" means idiots will still think the engine of justice is moving along enough for the consequences both for Trump, the justices, and the larger fascist team to be irrelevant.

Coach ,

Great! Now jail and/or execute the 6 corrupt justices. The problem just solved itself.

foggy ,

Dark Brandon, come out to play...

ColeSloth ,

I wish. I saw the debate. His people might do some shit on his behalf, but Joe's mind has gone. I wouldn't want him managing a Denny's. I doubt he's been calling the shots himself for months.

imPastaSyndrome ,

It's called sundowning which means he's still effective while the sun's up 😬

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@discuss.online avatar

"He is sick"

Bullshit, that's how dementia works - first you have bad days, then you only have good days left, then... it's just days.

I am no doctor, but I do worry about what I see, as someone who has eyes? 👀

Breezy ,

Naw joe won the debate. Who gives a shit if he talked like an 81 year old tired granddad. People who didnt watch the whole 90 minute debate dont get a say on it. You're just as bad as maga idiots repeating media drivel.

ColeSloth ,

I know what early dementia looks like. I've watched it happen to more than one of my close family members. Be as left leaning as you want to be, but don't bury your head in the sand over something as obvious as night and day. Neither one of those guys should be running the country. Not in their best years, and sure as hell not now.

NineMileTower ,

This will not happen. Democrats are fucking pussies and I keep voting for their pussy asses even though they don’t do anything.

eric5949 ,

Gotta elect that string of dictators disinclined from exercising their powers 🤷

Fuck this is so bad.

kandoh ,

If they were as freaked out by the democratic agenda as they say they are, they would never have made this ruling. It really shows that there is nothing to fear from the democrats.

ramble81 ,

Democrats aren’t pussies. Democrats are another arm of the ruling class (aka the 0.1%). There’s a reason they act inept on these things. It makes for good theater which people eat up, but it’s all for the rich. That’s the biggest reason they’ve been remiss to move to the left. The only ones fighting for us are ones that are considered “progressive”, which are greatly in the minority. Once you realize this, a lot more of the democratic leadership actions (or lack thereof), makes sense.

jaaake ,

Bastille Day is next weekend. I think that’s enough time to order and assemble a guillotine. IKEA has those, right?

mp3 ,
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

So you're telling me Biden could imprison SCOTUS and he'd be free from prosecution?

kevindqc ,

I guess they would need to decide if it's an official act or not. But if they're no longer in SCOTUS, and/or in jail/dead, how could they decide?

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