tacosanonymous ,

The rapist doesn’t take no for an answer. Who could have guessed?

Tronn4 ,

Why not after every failed attempt the trial gets pushed up 3 days?

blazera ,
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Why does he get so many attempts? Trump has really been exposing a problem with appeals law. There doesnt seem to be any standardization for cutoff.

halcyoncmdr ,
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The courts are generally willing to work anyone filing the correct paperwork in the correct timeframes. And each of those timeframes have subsequent timeframes for response. It's is all about giving defendants enough time to mount the best defense they can. You can only try someone once (barring mistrials which they try to avoid as much as possible) so it needs to be done correctly the first time.

Trump is a master of abusing these deadlines one at a time to cause as many delays as possible. Most defendants and lawyers would be filing multiple things simultaneously as much as possible to reduce lawyer fees. Trump's goal isn't to reduce cost though, it's just to waste time. I'm not sure Trump has ever actually won a civil lawsuit historically, he just wastes time until people settle or drop it because they cannot afford to continue. He;'s trying to do the same here in the criminal trials and forcing them further towards election season so he can add to the perception the trials are about his campaign, and not the criminal activity itself.

blazera ,
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And each of those timeframes have subsequent timeframes for response

This theoretically gives someone immunity from legal consequences. And in trumps case the theory is put into practice. Because theres no cap on the number of subsequent timeframes. Every appeal decision can be appealed.

KevonLooney ,

There's a cap. You can't appeal past the Supreme Court. And sometimes courts don't even take up your case. This Supreme Court has been surprisingly unwilling to do things for him.

If they don't take up the case, the appeal ends.

snooggums ,
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This Supreme Court has been surprisingly unwilling to do things for him.

Trump didn't pick his nominees, some group like the Heritage Club or whatever they are called had him nominate them. The nominees are not MAGA idiots, they are conservative authoritarians who wanted to overturn Roe v Wade and take away people's rights. Now that they are on the court Trump can go fuck himself.

blazera ,
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As far as ive seen, he can appeal laterally indefinitely, taken up by other appeals courts, or somehow through the same appeal court.

And sometimes courts don’t even take up your case.

This seems to be where the lack of standardization comes from. Its up to court discretion. Which is how someone like trump can get dozens of appeals while most only get 1.

Conyak ,

There isn’t a set number of times a person can try this. It’s not the same as appealing a verdict. You can ask for a delay right up until trial starts if you present different reasons.

Evilcoleslaw ,

Judges can also get tired of your shit and start imposing limits on your ability to file motions, and can also rule on them without awaiting a response.

MagicShel ,

In a word, money. If you can afford it, there's almost always another angle to try again. But most defendants aren't bankrolled by the RNC and Russian oligarchs, and the only thing limiting him is how quickly they can draw up new motions.

grasshopper_mouse ,
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Let's goooooo!

jballs ,
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Oh damn, I didn't realize that was starting Monday. I'll have to swing by Costco to pickup some popcorn this weekend!

kescusay ,
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I like how they're responding to the flood of shit basically instantly. No more leeway, no more delays. He has to fucking go to trial.

FuglyDuck ,
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At what point do they decide he’s being frivolous and tell him to shut the fuck up?

kescusay ,
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I almost don't want them to. I like the daily headlines about him losing appeals.

FuglyDuck ,
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Don't worry. Trump is incapable of shutting the fuck up, so you'll still get headlines.

MagicShel ,

He's losing so much. The other day a man came up to him, tears streaming down his face. He says, "please, sir! You've got to stop losing. I'm a Democrat and I can only get so erect!"

Thorry84 ,

And this was a big strong man as well, very muscle

geekworking ,

One of the things that they are filling frivolous motions about are a procedural order to limit a flood of last-minute frivolous filings to try to delay the case.

They can't really tell him to STFU because that would give him actual grounds for appeal, but they can enforce established deadlines to file stuff. Like the deadline to consider immunity that past a long time ago, which lets them immediately reject the claim now.

riodoro1 ,

And then he doesn’t have to pay because he’s suddenly poor or something.

pearsaltchocolatebar ,

This is a criminal trial, so paying money really isn't the point.

LEDZeppelin ,

Third request so far 🤡

Kbobabob ,

Womp womp

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