Texas "physically barred" Border Patrol agents from trying to rescue migrants who drowned, federal officials say ( www.cbsnews.com )

A woman and two children drowned in the Rio Grande on Friday while trying to enter the U.S. near a section of the southern border where Texas National Guard soldiers have prevented federal Border Patrol agents from processing and rescuing migrants.

rekabis ,

This crime occurred when people were crossing the border. The FBI needs to get involved and charge all involved with giving the order and physically restraining the agents with two counts of murder, and all present (excepting the Border Patrol agents) with accessory to murder.

Melody ,

Biden needs to send the Army in and take over the Texas Border enforcement.

Army outranks the National Guard, especially the state ones. The POTUS absolutely also does have power to command any National Guard unit to stand down as well.

TommySalami ,

Biden needs to send the Army in and take over the Texas Border enforcement.

He legally can't. He is not able to unilaterally use the military as a domestic police force. This keeps the executive from using the military as their personal cudgel.

I agree with the strong arming via national guard though. I think there are some hoops, but there's absolutely plenty of precedent for a president taking command of a state's national guard (specifically in regard to border control as well).

Melody ,

He absolutely can send an army unit with Orders to enforce his orders to the Nat. Guard.

CaptainProton ,

Not police force, but actually to patrol the border? Isn't that what they were set up to do? (Albeit to defend against state actors and not individuals)

MaxVoltage ,
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nah man just open the border and hand them into the custody of amazon or walmart

RememberTheApollo_ ,

That would be a step up from the meat packing plants, crop picking, and dishwashing they usually get.

CaptainProton ,

Ironically, pretty close to what Texas wanted before being forced to do it themselves when the federal government did nothing about their complaints except denounce them for political points.

Facebones ,

On today's episode of "The cruelty is the point"

cranakis ,

"We'll teach those goddamn migrants. How dare they come here searching for a better life?"

SrTobi ,

When they grandly talk that every soldier must refuse orders going against human rights, and if not, be legible to be tried and punished afterwards, they are talking about these kind of orders...

guacupado ,

Let's remember this when Texas' grid needs federal help again.

Necrosynthetik ,

Fuck red states. If people want to deny other people assistance in times of need, I say we do the same to them.

nieminen ,

I get what you mean here, but I MUST point out that many people who live in red states don't believe in the same ideology, or can't get out.

If there were a way to selectively punish the policy makers, and those that support it, I'm game. But this sounds like the same indiscriminate punishment rhetoric that Israel is using. (Please don't take offense, I know it's not how you meant it, just pointing it out)

tamal3 ,

Selectively punish policy makers? Um voting. That seems to not be a popular idea though.

nieminen ,

It's not terribly effective due to the gerrymandering of the voting districts, everyone that is in office is still so because they gerrymander the district to people who vote along party lines, whether or not they know what they're doing.

jjjalljs ,

I mean, we know who the republicans are.

Personally, I think no one who currently holds office as a republican should be allowed to hold any government office or work at any private entity that works with the government.

They've had years to leave the party as it has slid down into the nightmare it is today. The party is a hate group. Staying a member is damning.

Djtecha ,

Why is the federal government waiting for access from a state like Texas? Their officials are monsters and should be steamrolled to save lives.

ComradePorkRoll ,

Because the federal government isn't all that motivated to do anything about it. Republicans are evil and Democrats are apathetic.

Suavevillain ,
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There is so much evil going on in this world you don't even have time to process each act anymore. Because there is something else every few hours.

MedicPigBabySaver ,
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Yes. Just to be clear. It's been the same since the beginning of humanity. TV, Internet, social media, etc... just puts it in easy burst of info.

Hylactor ,

What am I supposed to do with this semantically corrected information?

What do you wish to influence by saying this?

I'm not sure when "things have always been bad" or even "things used to be worse" became a valid responses to "things are bad".

Copernican ,

They are saying we didn't start the fire. It was always burning since the world's been turning.

mhague ,

The person said that things are so bad now you can't process it anymore. They're implying the world is getting worse and that it's overwhelming.

The reply is trying to help the person see that they're responsible for the lopsided intake of negativity, not the world.

BigMacHole ,

Pro Life!

agoseris ,

Conservatives only care about children before they are born

000 ,

I didn't realize states had the power to block federal personnel from performing their duties. Maybe they should activate the National Guard to protect the border patrol guys so they can do their jobs.

Furedadmins ,

They don't but they told their soldiers they do. Federal border control isn't going to get in a shootout over it while it goes through the legal system.

Thrashy ,
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What's got me is, why bother with the legal system? Just call up the Texas National Guard into federal service and order them to enforce the law as regards Border Patrol's access to the border. If they refuse, court martial 'em. Either way, Border Patrol gets access to the border to cut down Texas' illegal barriers, and Abbott gets an unsubtle reminder about how the states are subordinate to the federal government. Win-win scenario.

Ulrich_the_Old ,

Someone should push greg abbott down a flight of stairs. There is no god and my proof is that greg abbott is not currently on fire.

pinkdrunkenelephants ,

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    graymess ,

    I'm not particular.

    gAlienLifeform ,
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    So, these agents hear about an emergency situation at the park, but when they get there Texas state cops don't want to let them enter, so the agents... Just give up and go home? Gosh, no wonder people in Congress are talking about more funding for securing the border, we apparently don't even give our Border Patrol firearms if this is how easy it is to stop them.

    Mamertine ,

    Are you suggesting the Border Patrol get into a shooting match with the TX national guard? Both sides are armed. It deserves a court case, not a gun fight.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    And nothing of value would be lost.

    zbyte64 ,
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    Don't bring a gun to a tank fight. Don't even need to shoot back, just roll over them if they don't get out of the way.

    MedicPigBabySaver ,
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    FlyingSquid ,
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    Can we give Texas back to Mexico so they can learn a little bit about human rights?

    MaxVoltage ,
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    as a mexican national the sentiment is bus them to NYC 🗽
    Nothing would change

    bedrooms ,

    Right after Abbott said Texas would shoot migrants.

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/01/greg-abbott-texas-shoot-migrants-border-biden-murder/

    He said he doesn't because Biden would charge them for murder. Charge them now.

    Sgt_choke_n_stroke ,

    https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/0dd4c451-26d3-4259-8d27-4cfde1c08a44.png

    Burn_The_Right ,

    Conservatives rejoice at the misery, oppression and death they cause. This is who conservatives are.

    kubica ,
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    You could divert the trolley without killing anyone but they are immigrants what do you do?

    Kalkaline ,
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    Is there a way to flood one side of the tracks, run the trolley over the other, and kill everyone on board the trolley and the switchman to own the libs?

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