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Sop , in is this how you spell numbers?

No

amansman , in is this how you spell numbers?

WHAT YOU SAY!?

LostWon ,

Somebody set up us the bomb!

good_girl , in is this how you spell numbers?
@good_girl@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Getting real french vibes from this...

pineapplelover , in [OC] TI Beats CASIO in Graphing Calculator Market (2004)

Casio is superior

ChaoticNeutralCzech OP ,

Yes but not in terms of market share, unfortunately. Monopolies suck. The best solution would be a standard open source operating system that would run on ARM hardware with a wide range of RAM and display support, like Java apps on midrange phones in the 2000s. And a QWERTY keyboard when rotated (we need the law changed for that to be legal in US schools). And an OK, as well as a BACK or EXIT button like CASIO. On the TI, I've seen programs that use MENU, DEL, CLEAR, ALPHA, SHIFT+MENU (QUIT), ON or a menu item confirmed by SHIFT (the usual OK key in games) to exit.

pineapplelover ,

I'd buy the fuck out of an open source calculator

ChaoticNeutralCzech OP ,

There are some open source graphic calculator projects but they aren't mass-produced and none are exam-approved. Software support is lacking but TI-84 Plus emulators exist so if someone rewrites TI-OS and the ROM (or requires people to dump it like the current ones), it could run that.

Did you know the humble Nokia 3410, the first Java phone, would dither games meant for higher-resolution color screens? Of course, programs for these calculators could use semi-vector graphics like the Web, or detect screen resolution and support the common ones natively, in a single or multiple executables like PocketPC software.

urist , in is this how you spell numbers?
@urist@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Have you noticed?

1 - one

2 - two

3 - three

...

9 - nine

10 - ten

11 - eleven

12 - twelve (A DOZEN)

13 - thirteen

Why does the way we name numbers in english change after twelve?

A dozen dozen? We have a word for that, a gross. An hour? 60 minutes, or 5 dozen minutes.

We were always meant to count in base 12. It's a conspiracy; I know you see it too. The truth cannot be silenced forever.

[insert more timecube/flat earth style ramblings here]

southsamurai , in YOU HAVE BEEN LIED TO THIS WHOLE TIME!
@southsamurai@sh.itjust.works avatar

Sadly, this is so far over my head that I have to accept it as truth, spread the word with authority, and found a religion based on it

pearsaltchocolatebar ,

It's just an equation that gives you the first few digits of pi if you treat pi as a variable.

But, pi isn't a variable, so it's not a real equation.

southsamurai ,
@southsamurai@sh.itjust.works avatar

Ahhh, gotcha! Thanks for the info :)

dm_me_your_boobs ,

As a programmer, I know what a variable is. Therefore, now this all makes sense to me.

xor ,

it's not treating pi as a variable, though...
here's one that does work:
circumference = 2piradius,
so, pi = 2*radius/circumference... which is true... (pi is the ratio of diameter to circumference)
the meme here is just an equation that's wrong because it's wrong... pi is being treated as if it's some value that it's not in the first equation, and it's still wrong in the second equation...

pearsaltchocolatebar ,

pi is being treated as if it's some value that it's not in the first equation

That's a variable. The value of 'pi' is dependent on the rest of the equation.

If you treat it as a variable, the math gives you 3.1415926536.

DerisionConsulting ,

Maybe I am also too dumb, but isn't the issue that the first equation is just wrong? It assumes that pi only equals 3.141592654

Solely_a_Catt ,
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This "proof" is based on a bug in Casio calculators (tested it on the fx-991EX classwitz, got it there too)

A try to explain it is in this video by Matt Parker. Are exactly the same numbers

lugal ,

It's not a bug, it's a feature

pruwybn , in YOU HAVE BEEN LIED TO THIS WHOLE TIME!
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I feel like this is not so much a meme as just a thing that is wrong.

737 ,

it's a reference to some calculators wrongly approximating some values to a fraction of π

Lux , in YOU HAVE BEEN LIED TO THIS WHOLE TIME!

Pi = pi/1

lugal ,

So P=p i imagine

Gullible , in yeah whats wrong

I feel I must offer the superior version of that meme template. Lemmy’s not a fan of crowder for reasons likely mirroring those of his ex wife.

mathematicalMagpie ,

Fuck the guy in the original meme, but we need a version for people tired of Calvin.

Lucidlethargy ,
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SpaceNoodle ,

No, let's filter out those people too.

HakFoo , in yeah whats wrong

I like it.

Read the "1" unit side as "move left 1 unit" and the "i" side as "move up i units", and the hypotrnuse is the net distance travelled.

The imaginary line is perpendicular to the real line, so "up i unit" is equivalent to "right 1 unit". The two movements cancel out giving a net distance of zero.

itslilith ,
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there is... A lot wrong with that

mozz Admin ,
mozz avatar

Why do you hate fun

mozz Admin ,
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Yep. A vertical line segment above A with length 𝑖 is a horizontal line segment to the left that's 1 unit long. So, the diagram needs a "not to scale" caveat like a map projection, but there's nothing actually wrong with it, and the triangle's BC side is 0 units long.

MachineFab812 , (edited )

i= √(-1) = imaginary number
(1^2) + (√(-1))^2 = 1 - 1 = 0 7

At least, I thought that was the idea in the OP.

Also, for your version, on a number line or Cartesian plane, the distance from -1 to 1 is 2, not 0

mozz Admin ,
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Yeah. We were making a joke about the complex plane -- you could say that measuring the hypotenuse of a triangle is equivalent to measuring the distance between points |AB| and |AC|𝑖 on the complex plane. That definition actually makes quite a bit of sense, and I think by sheer coincidence it's possible to misunderstand how to do it and wind up with a way of looking at it where the hypotenuse of a right triangle with sides 1 and 𝑖 would work out to exactly 0. Which brings it back into concordance with OP's (also wrong) Pythagorean presentation of it.

It obviously doesn't really work that way, but it's hard to see necessarily anything wrong with it, which makes it a fun math thing.

mozz Admin ,
mozz avatar

Also, for your version, on a number line or Cartesian plane, the distance from -1 to 1 is 2, not 0

Yeah. I cheated. You have to either deliberately misunderstand how to measure vectors or else drop a minus sign for it to work my way.

(Or, from my previous example, you could just frame it as you're getting the hypotenuse by measuring between |AB| and -|AC|𝑖 instead of the way I framed it -- but that makes it more obvious that you're fishing for a particular answer.)

MachineFab812 ,

I liked your other reply better, but either way I still have more to learn. ie, I had no idea what the complex plane is.

mexicancartel ,

If so moving down the imaginary line should be equivalent to miving left but then the answer must be 2 units long

But (-i)² is also -1 and it still results in 0

NateNate60 , (edited ) in yeah whats wrong

I get that this is just a meme, but for those who are curious about an actual mathematical argument, it is because Pythagoras's theorem only works in Euclidean geometries (see proof below). In Euclidean geometry, distances must be real numbers of at least 0.

There exists at least one ∆ABC in a 2-D non-Euclidean plane G where (AB)² + (AC)² ≠ (BC)² and m∠A = π/2

Proof: Let G be a plane of constant positive curvature, i.e. analogous to the exterior surface of a sphere. Let A be any point in G and A' the point of the furthest possible distance from A. A' exists because the area of G is finite. Construct any line (i.e. form a circle on the surface of the "sphere") connecting A and A'. Let this line be AA'. Then, construct another line connecting A and A' perpendicular to the first line at point A. Let this line be (AA')' Mark the midpoints between A and A' on this (AA')' as B and B'. Finally, construct a line connecting B and B' that bisects both AA' and (AA')'. Let this line be BB'. Mark the intersection points between BB' and AA' as C and C'. Now consider the triangle formed at ∆ABC. The measure of ∠A in this triangle is a right angle. The length of all legs of this triangle are, by construction, half the distance between A and A', i.e. half the maximum distance between two points on G. Thus, AB = AC = BC. Let us define the measure of AB to be 1. Thus, 1² + 1² = 2 ≠ 1². Q.E.D.

been_jamming ,

The pythagorean theorem works in any complex hilbert space

apotheotic , in yeah whats wrong
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"um actually" I guess to properly apply the pythagoras theorem here, you'd need to consider the magnitude of the lengths of each of these vectors in complex space, both of which are 1 (for the magnitude of a complex number you ironically can use pythag, with the real and imaginary coefficients of each complex number.

So for 1 you get mag(1+0i)=root(1^2 + 0^2)
and for i you get mag(0+1i)=root(0^2 + 1^2)

Then using pythag on the magnitudes, you get hypotenuse = root(1^2 + 1^2) = root 2, as expected

Shit I meant uhh imaginary number go brr it zero

Fox , in You don't have to use gyroelongation

When you roll a natural 1 on your charisma check

nilaus ,

Bob?

benignintervention , in You don't have to use gyroelongation

Oh shit this just upgraded my CAD game

threelonmusketeers , (edited )

Is it possible to create a golden ratio rectangle in CAD using "ruler and compass" techniques, or is numerical approximation necessary?

anton ,

I don't do CAD, but can it be done with "ruler and compass"?
Yes, as the golden ratio is (1+sqrt(5))/2 and sqrt(5) can be found in a right angled triangle with side length 1,2 and sqrt(5).

With some effort the root of any natural number can be constructed with ruler and compass by creating a spiral of right angled triangles.

been_jamming ,

The lengths you can construct are exactly the numbers which are composed of 1, addition, subtraction, multiplication, division, and square roots

sandalbucket , in You don't have to use gyroelongation

I love icospheres. Better than UV spheres.

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