cupcakezealot ,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

linda belcher alrightttttttt

kugmo ,
@kugmo@sh.itjust.works avatar

The fact that I don't have to deal with lib32-gst-plugins-ugly/bad/ect is amazing, but I'll have to keep 32 bit libraries for Team Fortress 2 and other online Source games.

theangryseal ,

Should I not be playing the native Linux version? Or am I just an idiot who doesn’t understand how the game works?

kugmo ,
@kugmo@sh.itjust.works avatar

Pretty sure TF2's VAC only works on the Linux version, otherwise it kicks you out when you try to join a match.

FluffyPotato ,

Ooo, native Wayland support, now only about half my software will be running through xwayland once Proton is updated as well.

azvasKvklenko ,

Dont hold your breath. It’s just initial support. It’s still opt-in and I can’t see Valve using it with Proton by default unless they start supporting native Wayland clients in Gamescope

heartfelthumburger ,
@heartfelthumburger@sopuli.xyz avatar

Finally, native Wayland support! Looking forward to when proton is updated with this. Good job to all the developers!

sentient_loom ,
@sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works avatar

Finally, a version that rhymes.

bitcrafter ,

A truly fantastic update for our times!

taladar ,

Wine is not an emulniner?

yianiris ,
@yianiris@kafeneio.social avatar

There is nothing "worth" running in wine, but it is good to know it exists, just to spite those choosing binary blobs.

@mr_MADAFAKA

henfredemars ,

How about this then. While your neighbors are using wine, it attracts more commercial attention to develop the open source projects that you do actually use. It's so impactful that you measurably benefit directly from its contributions, like optimizations to the Linux kernel.

You don't have to agree with it, but you cannot deny the increased investment in open source projects it causes.

For a painfully blatant example see: Steam Deck.

Also for the binary blob purists, how do you feel about all that closed source firmware underpinning your pure world? Isn't it practically impossible to get completely open source firmware down to the silicon? And even then, do you trust the silicon? Are you running everything on FPGAs?

Adanisi , (edited )
@Adanisi@lemmy.zip avatar

Hi! "Binary blob purist" here! Yes, it bothers us that so much firmware is proprietary, but we are working to fix that :).

It is possible to have fully free firmware on certain select devices.

The silicon is unchangeable, much like a chair is unchangeable. So being concerned about changing it isn't really productive. But, RISCV looks promising and a good remedy to the issue of not knowing what it does.

FPGAs would be nice but they aren't powerful enough yet.

But, at the same time, unless the silicon can make outside connections itself or modify behaviour (a la Intel ME), or has been updated with what is essentially software baked into it that can change it's behaviour on the fly, I'd say it can be trusted to do the computing you tell it to do and nothing more (again, excluding those processors where we know that it doesn't like those with the ME).

OsrsNeedsF2P ,

Dunno fam, I like LAN partying 2001 games with old friends during our biannual meetups.

UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT ,

Wine nine you say? 🧐

autokludge ,
@autokludge@programming.dev avatar

Wine-ine-oh

aksdb ,

They should have code-named this release "Brooklyn".

Molecular0079 ,

WINE NINE!

moon ,

codeweavers the true gigachad of Linux

they managed to make their anti-microsoft crusade a sustainable and profitable venture

henfredemars ,

Heavy: killing you is full-time job now!

fossphi ,

Them and also collabora seem to be doing an amazing job!

jackpot ,
@jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

difference between collabora anf libreoffice?

fossphi ,

If you meant onlyoffice, then I think it promises better compatibility with ms office stuff and also itsinterface is closer to it, compared to libreoffice.

jackpot ,
@jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

wait does collobora do more than onlyoffice? and if so why do many linux distribuitions pack libreofficd and not onlyoffice

fossphi , (edited )

Maybe there's some confusion here.

Collabora is a company, they funded some work on OnlyOffice which is a FOSS office suite like LibreOffice. I think they also worked on making it web hostable like Google docs (through nextcloud?)

Edit: Apparently now there's also collabora office suite?

OnlyOffice and LibreOffice are both very good. The former promises better compatibility with ms office files and has an easier interface imo. LibreOffice seems way more featureful

As for why fewer distros have onlyoffice in their repository, maybe because it's relatively newer? Anyway, it's available through flatpak and that's how I use it. I haven't tried Collabora online stuff

yianiris ,
@yianiris@kafeneio.social avatar

Is abiword foss?
It is the most reasonable of editors/wp I have found, LO gives me a headache looking at 1000 menus/items.
The gtk2 version is stable as a rock, despite of some bad wrap it got last few years.

@fossphi @jackpot

SomethingBurger ,
@SomethingBurger@jlai.lu avatar

All modules that call a Unix library contain WoW64 thunks to enable calling the 64-bit Unix library from 32-bit PE code. This means that it is possible to
run 32-bit Windows applications on a purely 64-bit Unix installation. This is called the new WoW64 mode, as opposed to the old WoW64 mode where 32-bit applications run inside a 32-bit Unix process.

🦀🦀🦀

henfredemars ,

Come on Steam, show those 32-bit libs the door!

Not the political kind. The shared object kind.

VinesNFluff ,
@VinesNFluff@pawb.social avatar

Ok but now I am curious what the difference between 32 and 64 bit liberals would be

5714 ,

Since they have longer words, 64-bit liberals would be more intellectual than 32-bit liberals. 32-bit liberals also have a term limit in 14 years.

BlanK0 ,

So in the future no need to install 32 bit packages of wine in a 64 system??? 👀

OsrsNeedsF2P ,

Correcto. Which means Steam will probably drop 32 bit libs soon. Which means Ubuntu will stop shipping 32 libs. The era is truly coming to an end

bruhduh ,
@bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar

X86 to arm will become easier with this as box64 could handle everything now

CalcProgrammer1 ,
@CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.ml avatar

Does this change run the 32-bit .exe using x86_64 instructions? From the description it just sounds like it allows 64-bit Linux libraries to be used in place of 32-bit ones, but that the Windows layer still operates in native 32-bit mode. This means there is still a need to emulate 32-bit x86 instructions which I don't think box64 can do at this time (x86_32 translates to arm32 with box86, x86_64 translates to arm64 with box64). If box86 could translate x86_32 to arm64 then this might work as Wine would handle the conversion between 32 and 64 bit addressing and argument passing into the libraries but I'm not familiar with the inner workings there.

bruhduh ,
@bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks for correction, not everything, but more

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