If you can sound confident in a reddit-y way, being right doesn't matter. If it seems like the threads going that way just disengage, it's not worth it.
I left Reddit after the fuck spez debacle and haven't looked back. I occasionally go to reddit through Google for some specific things. But I don't log in or engage in the content besides reading what I was looking for. And I use my ad blocker so that dickward spez doesn't get anything from me.
But yeah I suppose this is more about mods. They think they have so much power at the end of they day it's a fucking forum, that is not much power.
Mods on reddit didn't have the power to slow down the rate of posting. That sounds like anon was posting so much the site's anti-spam measures kicked in. As always we're only hearing one side of the story here.
If you get mass downvoted your account gets rate limited for ten minutes, too. Happened to me once when I had the audacity to say I didn't think Skyrim was all that great.
Yeah. And the worldbuilding isn't great. Like the magic system is wide but not deep, and isn't well integrated into the society. I'd rather they cut it down to like ten spells and actually had them feature in the world. Some spells are absolutely bonkers in the effect that they would have on the economy, for instance transmutation and "summon sword".
I always hated how you can be the king of every guild but it never means a damn thing. Characters like Delphine just needs to be taken out back and shot.
Stealth archer is way too powerful compared to any other run, especially with how powerful the enemies would get later on.
Ah. I wonder if EA went through that with their massively unpopular comment about having a sense of achievement.
Having not played it, or really any other games, I have no opinion on Skyrim. It's insane to downvote people because they dislike something like that. But that will happen here on Lemmy, too.
1,000% agree. Almost as if it's designed to be used by a community of people working together and not by a ruling class deciding what's permissible and nonpermissable for the peasants who are blessed to exist on their server 🙂.
This transparency does come with the side effect of shattering the hope that moderators in the lemmyverse are any better than those on any other part of the Internet though. It's the same little lords ruling over their little fiefdoms.
Mlem is still under constant development (source: am Mlem developer), but Voyager is the most feature-complete at the moment by far. I don’t know of any other iOS clients still in development. Unfortunately Memmy’s development seems to have halted :(
Mlem has been out of beta testing for a while; it’s available on the App Store. It offers all of the Lemmy features that the average user would use, except for post searching. It doesn’t yet support moderation/administration features.
Although the app is fully out, we still improve it over time by releasing feature updates every few months (we’re planning to release an update this week, actually). That’s what I mean when I say “in constant development”.
It’s vital that a Lemmy client has at least one active developer. When a new version of Lemmy is released, “breaking changes” are often included. These changes by the Lemmy developers require the client developers to modify their apps to support the new system. If there aren’t any developers left to make those modifications, the app can stop working.
To gauge whether an app is still being developed, you can take a look at their GitHub/GitLab page. It tells you how recently the source code of the app was last modified. Voyager and Mlem both had changes less than a day ago, whereas Memmy hasn’t been touched for several months.
Too bad it doesn't do its job of holding mods accountable yet. Look at the mod log and you still see plenty of mods and admins removing valid posts for wrongthink.
I looked up your comment in the modlog just to see; if it's the one I see, you got banned from lemmy.ml which is a little different. They make no pretense of fairness.
That said, based on the comment that's fuckin ridiculous. I don't agree with you, but I can't understand the point of a communication network where as soon as someone busts out an opinion the operators don't like, they remove them from the community. It's like lighting a big red beacon "MY OPINIONS CANNOT TOLERATE AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO DISAGREE." It's one thing if you're insulting some person in the channel or something, but it was clearly just your geopolitical opinion.
Then again, it is lemmy.ml; it's run by people who idolize leaders who imprison or torture people who try to disagree, so count yourself lucky that they're not in charge of anything beyond their little server I guess. I tried to debate with the tankies when I first showed up here and at this point my approach is just to unsubscribe and move on.
Edit: Just because I reread this and I'm still irritated at it somehow. My breaking point with lemmy.ml was when I was arguing with some people, and someone else showed up in the thread and I was talking with him, and the people I was arguing with were using the new guy's opinions as some kind of "gotcha" against me. Like, this guy believes this, and you're supporting him, so clearly you're on his side (I wasn't), and you agree with him (I definitely didn't), and we can hold you responsible for anything he says because you're not attacking him.
Like, they could not process the idea that I might be talking to someone who had a different opinion than me, and it could be okay. They thought if he said flip, and I thought it was flop, I had to instantly start screaming at him about how flop was the way, and everything else had to stop, and if i didn't do that I wasn't a good flop-supporter. And so they seemed like they legitimately thought that if I wasn't doing that it meant I secretly supported flip, because that was what they would do, is just scream (figuratively speaking) at anyone who didn't agree with them completely on everything they considered important, until they "won" (i.e. the person gave up and left).
I realized there was nothing for me there, and unsubscribed from anything world-event-related on lemmy.ml immediately, and so far it's proven to be a good decision.
Ah. I'm still a little curious whether it was for actual opinions or for being a jerk or etc. For what it's worth I got banned from tons of stuff on reddit; I complained in one sub about being banned from another and quoted the thing that got me banned, and everyone started falling out of their chairs saying holy shit dude I'm not surprised, that message is a fuckin doozy. Like okay then, tell me why it's wrong, don't just shriek and run away and grab the banhammer.
It's a tough thing. I do get the necessity to police people doing personal attacks or blatant racism or spam to keep the community OK, but I don't get how it seems like it always escalates to the list of allowed opinions and disallowed opinions.
The admins on world are trolls, I don't know about the lead dude though. I've been either banned or shadow banned there, my stuff isn't showing up except to the original poster sometimes. It's very odd. I'm almost fully switched over to not posting, but sometimes I do by accident. World sucks.
It absolutely has those vibes, I wonder if it's owned by reddit or maybe meta? They seem to be doing things I think they would do. It could just be someone who wants to start their own reddit too. All just guesses, but I'm done with them.
I got a 3 day ban from news on .ml for posting a link to Media Bias Fact Check. I wasn't OP, just posted the link with a summary when someone asked about OP's source. I would imagine OP got sent for Re-Education.
I was threatened with a ban because I commented on a Harry Potter book being burned, saying that it was ironic that crazy Fundamentalists (who believe magic is real and evil) and people who don't support TERF assholes somehow share this one, random cause.
The reason for the removal and the threat of a ban was something to the extent of "Hurr-Durr, mah both sides" which... oh, my head, the bad reading comprehension there.
It was not on any LGBTQ+ or trans specific instance, either. It was, like, memes (edit: it was 196).
Point is, there's dumb people who want to abuse power everywhere, in every group, and always will be. Even the best causes and best groups. Especially in the worst causes and worst groups, though. I'M NOT BOTH-SIDES-ING, DON'T BAN ME.
The lead moderator of 196 Moss is a Hamas apologist and authoritarian turd. I was banned because I said fuck Hamas fuck the IDF. Both of the governments freely use the civilian population as currency in their political games. Apparently pointing out that the Palestinians are getting double -fisted is a No-No when one of the fists is Hamas.
In Reddit it doesn't really matter. You can cite the best sources ever, use a pristine logic, and the local irrationals will still find some excuse to believe in whatever.
You do see plenty of that in most places, but I feel like it's way worse in Reddit. As if there was something there reinforcing it. (Perhaps the local culture? I have no idea.)
I don't disagree that the voting system (specially karma) plays a role, but I think that Reddit embraces oversimplifications a bit too much, and that's part of the problem - because then you get both sides discussing if 2+2 is 3 or 5, and if you say "it's 4" nobody will bat an eye (except to screech at you).
In special, three types of false dichotomy:
no gradation: 50 is either 0 or 100.
no third category: since apples and bananas are different from each other, then grapes must be either a type of apple or a type of banana.
no superset or subset: if all bananas are fruits, then all fruits are bananas.
You do see those things in Lemmy too, but nowhere as much as in Reddit; and it has consequences everywhere, including political discussion. Or in 4chan - as much as their userbases hate each other, they fall for the same logical traps.
Nah, it's just as bad everywhere else online, IMO. Youtube and Facebook (including instagram, etc.) comments are unusually bad, though. The general feeling on any social media is that seemingly everyone is falling over themselves and others in a race to be so incredibly stupid and ignorant that it's gone several levels lower than should be possible.
The other key factor is to not be an insufferable dickhead when you’re posting. You can post the truest facts known to man but if you come across as a smug asshole then people will naturally be inclined to think your wrong.
I feel like your tone plays next to no part on that. If they agree and you're rude, your rudeness becomes "justified"; if they don't agree and you're rude, they'll play the victim, assume (yet another sign of stupidity) that you're angry, or even "u rude than ur rong lol lmao".
Same deal with explanation length; make it succinct and to-the-point and they'll assume words on your mouth, make it verbose and well-explained and they'll distort it.
In my old community (here, in Lemmy - showing that the problem is not exclusive to Reddit) I scolded people like this, even when I happened to agree with them. I could've banned them, but I have no idea on how to approach this in large scale.
All that matters is whether you're speaking for or against the prevailing assumptions of the site/the subreddit. Most people on the internet are not experts on the topic but somehow already have their minds made up.
I've cited nonexistent sources before. It seems convincing and nobody actually checks, so the other guy got downvoted because I got sources. I can imagine they weren't happy about it, seemed like they actually knew their shit.
