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rImITywR , in Why does 2TB secondary storage only show as an option when configuring a laptop, and not when using the marketplace?

https://frame.work/products/western-digital-sn740-nvme-m-2-2230?v=FRANRTWD0B
is in the marketplace for the Canada and US regions, but not GB. IDK, maybe a supply chain thing. Maybe a mistake.

But if your trying to buy a SSD, not a laptop, don't buy it from Framework and pay their shipping. Just buy it from a local retailer.

s12 OP ,
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Ok.

The link just shows “ We’re sorry, we couldn’t find what you were looking for” for me.

TropicalDingdong , in Framework won’t be just a laptop company anymore

Do electric cars next. No AI bullshit. Just modular, repairable, customizable vehicles.

OsrsNeedsF2P ,

Their 18M investment is missing a few zeroes to do that.

TropicalDingdong , (edited )

Well maybe they need a...

000 18M investment!

Jk, how about electric bikes then?

markstos ,

Already a crowded and fairly repairable market.

fruitycoder ,

I was hearing the ECUs in the market were fineky to repair from a friend. I know there us a certain diy support for them, but more prosumer seeming then full right to repair.

SomeBoyo , in Thought I was being clever...

might have to convert to PS/2 for faster speeds

lorgo_numputz , in [SOLVED] Framework laptop 16 won't boot at all after failed Linux Mint install

Upvoted because you came back to put in the solution

s12 OP ,
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Thank you.

SteveTech , in Framework open sources the 3D CAD design files for its modular 16 inch laptop

The CAD files for the Framework 13 have also been out for a few years too.

extremeboredom , in Coreboot Progress - Update on the AMD board

Can someone fill me in on the advantages coreboot will bring to the table? Is this something that's distro-agnostic?

sorrybookbroke OP , (edited )
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It should be distro agnostic, yes. It's a bios replacement so once it hands off to the OS it should be chill

The reason why many people like coreboot is ownership over your system. The codes freely available to you, what it does is known, and this it's harder to backdoor.

As for functionality, by my understanding, this allows for updates way past what manufacturers are willing to support. Making older hardware much more secure.

Other than support for older systems and peace of mind there's not anything I'd know myself. It may be able to allow features that the bios doesn't allow but the hardware supports as well but I don't have any examples

I'll admit, I'm a paranoid man, so peace of mind and ownership over my system is the main allure. Also, I hate branding, and love to remove it where possible. Coreboot allows this

bitwolf ,

Something that frustrates me is the the bios manufacturers tend to do the minimum required.

This means that your notebook could grow older and stop getting bugfix updates.

The bios are usually tailored for Windows and thus break UEFI standards like windows.

This requires "quirks" in Linux to try to make ACPI for correctly.

Coreboot is appealing to me because it gives hope that well have properly designed firmware, and prompt bugfixes, on Laptops one day.

ipacialsection , in Introducing the new Framework Laptop 13 with Intel Core Ultra Series 1 processors
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While this new display certainly seems better (in terms of being able to use 2x scaling instead of my current 1.25x), I'd honestly prefer to have a cheaper option that's just 1920x1280, so I don't have to use scaling at all. I don't care that much how "crisp" text looks.

TonyOstrich ,

It's just a standard eDP connector. Technically as long as you can find a screen with the same physical dimensions and that uses the same number of eDP lanes or less, you can just drop it in. I have quite a few ThinkPad laptops I have done that with. The screens in them are not an option Lenovo ever offered for those laptops.

TheHobbyist ,

Is that a resolution which is proposed elsewhere? Sounds very unique to me. Or did you mean 1920x1200?

ipacialsection ,
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I proposed that resolution because it's the closest to 1920x1200, but keeping a 3:2 aspect ratio.

TheHobbyist ,

I see. In that case a 1920x1200 display with an adjusted frame might be enough? The top and bottom would just need to be slightly thicker to bridge the gap of the missing 80 vertical pixels? Just a thought, not important at all :)

gramgan , in Framework won’t be just a laptop company anymore

Tablet?

David_Eight ,

I would think they'd do a phone first given the market for phones is way bigger.

helenslunch ,
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They announced a partnership with Cooler Master, which to me suggests that that is not the case.

David_Eight ,

They already work with Cooler Master. I believe they designed the cooling for the laptops and this case.. And why would Cooler Master work on a tablet and not a phone, phones need cooling to lol?

helenslunch , (edited )
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Read the article my dude

Another line points out that Cooler Master, which designed the thermal solution inside the Framework Laptop 16 and is now a direct investor, might help Framework build new products, too. “

And why would Cooler Master work on a tablet and not a phone, phones need cooling to lol?

They wouldn't work on either because that's not the type of products they make.

Phones don't have much on the way of cooling

David_Eight ,

I did read it, I'm not sure what you're trying to say here?

helenslunch ,
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I'm afraid I don't know how to be anymore clear

David_Eight ,

You can tell me how the quote from the article connects to what I said and what led you to believe I didn't already read it.

David_Eight ,
helenslunch ,
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That's an external cooler attachment...

David_Eight ,

Yes

helenslunch ,
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...it's not a phone?

David_Eight ,

No, it's not a phone. That's the "Cooler Master Cryo Phone Cooler". It's a phone cooler that attaches to the back of your phone to provide additional cooling while gaming and what not. So when you said

They wouldn't work on either(phone or tablet) because that's not the type of products they make.

Not really true, Cooler Master had already made a cooler for phones. It's not much of a stretch to say they might release another product in the phone category.

helenslunch ,
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No, it is very true. Building a glorified clip-on fan is not the same thing as making a phone.

David_Eight ,

What's your point, nobody said it was?

helenslunch ,
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I mean I feel like that's pretty clearly what you were insinuating, but if not then I'm not sure what YOUR point is.

The point is not only that phones don't have cooling systems (outside of niche devices like RedMagic and ROG) but that CM has no experience with that sort of thing, so its unlikely to be a phone because they would not need CM's investment for that.

David_Eight ,

If Framework made a modular phone then CM could make a modular similar to the one I linked that could attach to the FW phone. Or the phone wouldn't involve CM at all and they're working on a different product altogether.

What do you think the next Framework/Cooler Master collaboration is?

CatsGoMOW ,

Isn’t that basically what Fairphone is?

David_Eight ,

It's very similar but with a different philosophy. Fairphone is about sustainability and being ethical. Framework is about repairability and upgradability(which the fairphone isn't).

commandar ,

Sustainability is a large part of Framework's mission as well. The CEO has explicitly said that one of their goals is that none of their laptops should end up in a landfill.

David_Eight ,

That's definitely true. There's definitely a lot of overlap but, my point was that Fairphone specialized in making "ethical" electronics beyond just being repairable in a way afaik Framework does not. And I'm assuming that a Framework phone would be upgradable and the Fairphone is not.

People looking to buy one would also look to at the other as an alternative though.

psud ,

There's room for an American ethical phone maker. There's room for far more than two such companies in the world

jol ,

FairPhone is definitely about repairability. But yes, I keep waiting for a FairPhone that isn't a total redesign from the previous so we can finally get yearly upgrades without needing a new phone. But the truth is, before the FP4 the design was still catching up to the competition.

ElectroLisa ,
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In my opinion Fairphone makes dodgy decisions, like removing a headphone jack and supplementing that with their own Fairbuds

sorrybookbroke , (edited ) in Introducing a new RISC-V Mainboard from DeepComputing
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This is wild I am so happy to see it. I tend to be hesitant to fanboy a company but here I can't help myself. Step after step, most things framework do make it imposible not to.

Of course, as stated, this is just a dev board but the ability to just drop the boy into the 13 inch and have it going is wild. I'm increadibly excited to see what people can do with it and if it's available for consumers, I'm excited to finally have a chance to try my hand at risc development

avidamoeba , in Framework open sources the 3D CAD design files for its modular 16 inch laptop
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Does that mean that another firm could create an alternative chassis that takes Framework parts?

synapse1278 ,
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Yes.

HootinNHollerin , (edited )

I don’t read it as that. They say it’s to enable accessories etc. I think the cad is of the external shell only:

Framework Laptop 16 © 2024 by Framework Computer Inc is licensed under CC BY 4.0. To view a copy of this license, visit http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

External 3D CAD of the system and main modules to enable development of 3D-printed replacement parts, skins, cases, and other accessories.

Jumuta , in Framework won’t be just a laptop company anymore
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framework p r i n t e r

Cris_Color , in Introducing the new Framework Laptop 13 with Intel Core Ultra Series 1 processors
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They said in the video that the resolution was specifically picked for 2x scaling to avoid fractional scaling for linux users :)

I'm just excited the ryzen laptop I was JUST about to order got a 6% discount!

uthredii Mod , (edited ) in Introducing a new RISC-V Mainboard from DeepComputing
fl42v , in [SOLVED] Framework laptop 16 won't boot at all after failed Linux Mint install

The error shown in the image is unreadable. Can you take a pic of it specifically?

Jumuta , (edited ) in Linux Mint battery tuning for Framework 16
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have you done the TLP stuff?

first make sure you don't have power profiles daemon because this conflicts with tlp

you can turn it off with

sudo systemctl stop power-profiles-daemon.service
sudo systemctl mask power-profiles-daemon.service

install tlp with

sudo apt install tlp
sudo systemctl enable tlp

and edit the config at /etc/tlp.conf to optimise your battery

the instructions are in the file iirc

basically set your CPU settings (I use powersave on my intel non-framework), and maybe have a look at the radeon graphics things (I don't have an amd system so I can't say much about this)

and refresh your config with

sudo tlp start

if you also get powertop (sudo apt install powertop) you can monitor your power consumption in that. (sudo powertop)

If you can't be bothered with this, I think you can also just install power profiles daemon but I like tlp better because it gives you much finer control over your system

TheButtonJustSpins OP ,

Okay, installed both. Are there any specific config entries I should be looking at in tlp.conf?

Jumuta ,
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I think the most important ones are:

  • CPU_SCALING_GOVERNOR_ON_BAT
  • CPU_ENERGY_PERF_POLICY_ON_BAT
  • CPU_BOOST_ON_BAT
  • CPU_HWP_DYN_BOOST_ON_BAT
  • SATA_LINKPWR_ON_BAT (this had an issue where it corrupted data, but that was a few years ago so it should be fine)
  • AHCI__RUNTIME_PM_ON_BAT
  • WIFI_PWR_ON_BAT
  • PCIE_ASPM_ON_BAT
  • RUNTIME_PM_ON_BAT

(I haven't used these myself because I don't have a radeon card, but it should improve battery life for you):

  • RADEON_DPM_PERF_LEVEL_ON_BAT
  • RADEON_DPM_STATE_ON_BAT

I had to set USB_AUTOSUSPEND=0 because otherwise my usb devices kept turning off, but you might not need this.

tyrant ,

I love when people are this helpful to each other. <3

TheButtonJustSpins OP ,

Thank you so much! I've uncommented all of these.

Jumuta ,
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did it help?

TheButtonJustSpins OP ,

It basically immediately caused my laptop to freeze up and I had to hard reboot it. I took the opportunity as it was coming up to remove the 80% limit in the BIOS, and then I commented everything I had uncommented. :/

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