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steal_your_face , in Introducing the new Framework Laptop 13 with Intel Core Ultra Series 1 processors
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Any idea if the new 13 display is better for gaming?

Pantsofmagic ,

It said 120Hz with VRR so I'd have to assume that's a resounding yes. I ended up putting a deposit on one of the panels to upgrade my AMD FW13.

steal_your_face ,
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Thanks! I put the deposit down as well :)

ichbinjasokreativ , in Mildly interesting: the Framework Laptop on the Fedora homepage

The second that these guys either announce a higher-end AMD GPU or an oculink expansion slot, I'll finally pull the trigger

vikingtons ,
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Also CAMM2 🥺

MalReynolds ,
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Isn't there a 8x oculink in dev (3rd Party?) that fit in the GPU slot, such a keen idea...

ichbinjasokreativ ,

Yeah, but I haven't heard about that for a bit and idk how long that will take

Dudewitbow ,

we probably wont have an announcement of a high end gpu till someone develops a 240w usb pd epr charger.

cordlesslamp ,

Isn't 240W is the latest (& highest) PD standard?

Dudewitbow ,

yes, but a charger doesn't exist for it yet

spec changes often take account for future hardware that may not at the time, be creatable at the time of publishing.

asexualchangeling , in Framework won’t be just a laptop company anymore

I would love a framework TV that let you slot in your own main board, thus letting you customize your own smart (or even gaming) TV

Obviously phones are the priority though

olutukko ,

I wish they would just ship big ass screen that you can connect to raspeberry pi. or something similar with a lot more io ports. I don:t care what the current trend is, i want those hdmi port. I want to have wii, ps3, laptop and amplifier in it

CaptPretentious , (edited )

I've wanted to updated my TV's for a while, but hate most offerings. I would love that. Honestly same with cell phone. My Galaxy S9+ battery isn't what it used to be and there's no patches anymore

DavidGarcia , in Expansion Cardslot compatibility - Not all Framework 16 ports are created equal

I wonder what this "Higher Power Consumption" means and why that is. Higher than USB-4 or higher than other USB-A slots? I would except a USB-A slot to not use more power than a USB-4 slot.

lwe ,

If I remember correctly due the chip behind those two Usb-c ports the usb-a adapter in those two slots will consume more power than in the others.
Others might know more.

oo1 ,

is the usb A high power still limited to 5V?
This means it'd need high current ratings (and heat dissipation) to deliver higher power at that voltage.

compare to say usb-C that can negotiate up to something like 20V, if all links allow it.
this means your usb-c can offer higher power with lower current rated components..

For basic solidstate power supply doubling the V ratings from say 6V to 12V will likely be cheaper than doubling Amp ratings from say 3A to 6A.
but for sure in a laptop managing the heat will be a consideration.

Maybe theres a version of USBA that can use the data lines to negotiate power - in which case this would be non-standard.

They should just state peak and continuous V, A and W for each port, and also for the set of ports as a whole. maybe in different input/battery scenarios. I assume a third party, or home gamer could create their own plug in module to do whatver, but it'd be helpful for them to know the electrical ratings.

jo3shmoo ,

IIRC There's an issue with the retiming chips that retransmit the USB4 signals over to the A style and how they're able to interact with the rest of the system. It causes the chips to stay awake and waste energy. The same issue is present on the AMD 13 framework; something to do with the AMD USB4 implementation. The 3.2 ports don't have the same issue.

Basically the port will still work in that configuration but the battery life will suffer.

jjagaimo , in Does anybody have (or can provide) the physical dimensions of the 16" screen replacement?

You might be able to pull the dimensions from the CAD models:

https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/Framework-Laptop-16

TropicalMustafa OP ,

Thanks! So if these are in scale, its dimensions are around 344mm x 214mm.

sloppy_diffuser , in [SOLVED] Framework laptop 16 won't boot at all after failed Linux Mint install

I can kind of make out "Not Found" as the last words on every line with efi on the first line.

I don't have a framework so don't know the ins and out but my guess here is you need to hit whatever key is needed to bring up the boot drive selection menu to pick the installer USB.

You could also check that USB is towards the top in the BIOS settings if you want to change the default boot priority.

I don't know if CMOS battery resetting is still a thing; I haven't done it in a decade. That is another thought if some bad state (e.g., secure boot) is still getting held by the mobo chipset. I'd confirm with some documentation or Framework support first though. I've never done it on a secure boot system.

s12 OP ,
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Thanks.

I've updated my post to add a transcription to the body.

hit whatever key is needed to bring up the boot drive selection menu to pick the installer USB.

It's already the only option there. I just got the same error.

I'm pretty sure the issue is with secure boot.

sloppy_diffuser ,

Check my other reply. Looks like your options are to rename a file or two, or change some BIOS/EFI settings to look for a different boot file (if available), or CMOS reset to clear nvram.

Tolookah , in [SOLVED] Framework laptop 16 won't boot at all after failed Linux Mint install

I'm not able to help, but That text is really hard to read, can you either type it out or give a much better picture?

s12 OP ,
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Sorry. The hosting site may have reduced the quality. I've added a transcription to the post.

umbrella , in Coreboot Progress - Update on the AMD board
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this laptop is shaping up to be NICE

aurelian , in Exciting Partnership Announcement: Framework Community & NixOS Communities Join Forces!
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This is fantastic news!

ky56 , in Framework won’t be just a laptop company anymore

Framework tackling phones is useless if they go the mainstream SoC route (Qualcomm, Mediatek) as they don't have the software team needed to make those work properly (I would argue alot of handset manufactures don't either). From what I hear you need a hell of software team to "fix" the garbage Android SDK released for those chips. Most importantly is if they go the closed mainstream SoC route which have EoL SDK support dates then what's the point of building a durable repairable phone at a higher price point when you have to throw it out at the same as everyone else?

I want to see Framework enter the Linux phone market using "open" chips like Rockchip alongside Pine64's Pinephone (Pro) and the Librem 5 as I think they would more likely have the funds, dev time and community support to help bring say PostmarketOS into a usable state then have to rework the SDK. This way the phone's EoL date would be determined be the local phone infrastructure shutdowns. A much longer amount of time.

wfh , in How Would You Spec a Framework 13 for an Educational Use Case?
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Linux or Windows?

As for your questions:

  • this CPU will be fine for years for absolutely everything except AAA gaming.
  • On Linux, 16Gbs of RAM is fine. As other said, prefer 2x8Gb instead of a single 16Gb.
  • 250Gb of storage is very cramped by modern standards. I would go at least 512Gb. Buy your SSD from elsewhere, it's much cheaper.
  • maybe grab an extra USB-C in case you need to plug an external drive while charging your PC.
FireTower OP ,
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Thanks, probably Windows just for the sake of not worrying about being the one guy trying to figure out how to make a specific software work mid-class on Linux.

I'll definitely make sure to shop around for that SSD. I'm a brief look I've found at least a 500GB model for the same FW is billing for 250 GB.

CCMan1701A ,

You can run Windows in a VM or try wine.

Cris_Color , in Introducing a new RISC-V Mainboard from DeepComputing
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Dude... Thats the fuckin coolest shit ever

yessikg , in (Framework Blog) Introducing a new RISC-V Mainboard from DeepComputing
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More third-party hardware, excellent!

narc0tic_bird , in [SOLVED] Framework laptop 16 won't boot at all after failed Linux Mint install
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I had pretty much the same problem on a ThinkPad T490 after a borked Mint install. It tells the EFI to boot into MOK Manager but doesn't provide it under the path (mmx64.efi).

I don't 100 % remember what I did to fix it but I think I booted into an EFI Shell and wiped boot entries off the NVRAM. Resetting the BIOS should do that, but this may vary by manufacturer.

Luci , in [SOLVED] Framework laptop 16 won't boot at all after failed Linux Mint install
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Kinda sounds like the bootloader didn't install or the boot partition got mangled.

If there isn't anything of value you could just reinstall, would make sense to use fresh media and use the built in verification before installation.

If you need the data back, use a valid live cd to copy it off the system first.

Edit: consider a page file over a swap partition as it can be adjusted on the fly without a reboot. I work with VMs a lot and having a page file has been very helpful when I need a little boost or want to slim down.

s12 OP ,
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Umm... thank you, but I'm not sure you understood my issue.

If there isn’t anything of value you could just reinstall

use a valid live cd

I ... can't.

I don't have any data that needs backing up. It's a new computer. I'm trying to install, but I can't boot off the live media.

Luci ,
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Does the bios have an option to EFI boot from a USB? Sometimes there is a tiny file manager in the boot options that will allow you to boot from an EFI file off a USB key and not just by selecting a different boot option, the issue here seems to be that the firmware is trying to boot from a file that doesn't exist. The odd part is that it won't work from your USB because it seem to be trying to chain boot efi files that don't exist.

Are you sure your live media is good? Does it boot on another system?

s12 OP ,
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Sometimes there is a tiny file manager in the boot options that will allow you to boot from an EFI file off a USB key and not just by selecting a different boot option,

This worked!!

Back into my live environment now.

I'll update my post once I've checked that there are no further problems.

Luci ,
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Glad I could help, please leave an upvote on your way out :))

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