What Major Social Media Platforms Would You Like To See Federated Alternatives To That Don't Exist Yet? ( lemmy.ml )

Pretty much in the title. Maybe you wouldn't even use it, but would like to simply see it exist for the sake of having a federated alternative.

For me, it'd be the following:

  • LinkedIn
  • Meetup
  • Tiktok

I am on the first two, but would prefer a federated alternative. I'm not on Tiktok, but would like to see a federated alternative.

I'll admit these might not be a good idea. But as a thought experiment, I'd be curious about the community weigh in on what you all think this might look like.

lukas ,
@lukas@youfoh.xyz avatar

since there is lemmy im happy

small44 ,

Bandcamp

TadeuszBonawentura ,

There is at least one https://simonrepp.com/faircamp/

sentient_loom ,
@sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works avatar

Is it federated? Or is it just a solo version for anybody who wants their own solo bandcamp?

TadeuszBonawentura ,

AFAIK it is in beta but developer planned or already implemented federation. If I'm wrong, I think @freebliss could correct me.

freebliss ,
@freebliss@post.lurk.org avatar

@TadeuszBonawentura @z3rOR0ne @small44 It's more the "your own solo bandcamp" thing to paraphrase @sentient_loom. From the technical side, given it's a static site generator, it can not technically act as a server for anything, including federation. It could act as an activity pub client technically, but it's an open research question how that could be interesting. So for now no plans and no implementation, but I'm keeping tabs on ActivityPub and at least thinking about possible directions.

sentient_loom ,
@sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works avatar

I love bandcamp as it is, but this is an amazing idea.

SubArcticTundra ,
@SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml avatar

A shared whiteboard. Something like Google's Jamboard

Fabrik872 ,

I would like discord but in fediverse. This one i am actually using and even there are foss alternative like nextcloud talk i would like something that is at least as reliable as discord for calls

somas ,
@somas@kbin.social avatar

@Fabrik872

Is that not what Matrix is? I haven’t been to really understand Matrix so maybe I’m wrong.

https://matrix.org/

biscoot ,

Yes, Matrix is the closest I've seen to Discord that is federated. However, it doesn't use ActivityPub I believe

danhakimi ,

well, yeah, because it's private messaging, it requires encryption and things like that. Really, fediverse instances should ideally incorporate matrix chat in some way or another, but that's not exactly trivial.

Zak ,
@Zak@lemmy.world avatar

Is ActivityPub a good fit for chat? Trying to make every kind of interaction fit into a single protocol sounds like a recipe for a bad protocol.

nasi_goreng ,
@nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip avatar

ActivityPub is not designed for real time chat and communication, I believe.

There's Matrix and XMPP protocol, but upcoming MLS protocol (which backed Mozilla, The Matrix.org Foundation, even Meta) looks more complete, feature-wise.

fluffery ,
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He meamtwd calling, calling is lacking

an0nym0us ,
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    feoh ,

    I don't understand this.

    How would one federate a shopping cart or an e-commerce store?

    I mean, I'm not asking for technical details because we're brain storming, but even in concept I'm struggling with this :)

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    feoh ,

    So like, maybe distributed recommendations, reviews and the like? I could get behind that :)

    Omega_Haxors ,

    I feel like this is what crypto was selling itself as before revealing itself being nothing more than scams, fraud and funding fascist death squads.

    EpicVision ,

    Something like StackOverflow/StackExchange would be nice. Would also like to see a federated platform for designers/artists (some Dribbble or Adobe Behance alternative).

    Feathercrown ,

    Federated SO where each participating site has its own list of topics makes a lot of sense tbh

    nutomic ,
    @nutomic@lemmy.ml avatar

    You could probably make this as a custom lemmy frontend. The main functionality is almost identical.

    Feathercrown ,

    It'd have to be very custom but yeah it would work. Implementing review queues and rep/privileges and stuff might take a bit longer if you want to mirror the site that closely though.

    makeasnek ,
    @makeasnek@lemmy.ml avatar

    YES PLEASE

    feoh ,

    Github

    All the benefits of the network effect without the crippling reliance on a single MegaCorp to keep the lights on and not turn hostile like the owners of SourceForge, Reddit, and Freenode IRC.

    Would also solve a problem I'm not hearing anyone at all talk about - what happens when the Gitlab / Gittea / whatever instances projects are hosting run out of money and go dark? Those sources are lost forever.

    mosiacmango , (edited )

    Youre in luck. Forgeo is a well maintained, self hosted gitea fork that is federated by design.

    feoh ,

    Fantastic, I will check this out!

    Now we just need to get projects to start using it and federating their source code :)

    I suspect the other comment about Gitlab may have more adoption because lots of projects including some very large ones are already using that platform.

    Zak ,
    @Zak@lemmy.world avatar

    Gitlab is actively working on this.

    feoh ,

    That's really great to hear! It's an incredible vision for an open source future not dependent on MegaCorps, and I am SO here for that!

    MxRemy , (edited )

    There actually is a fediverse TikTok equivalent being developed! I'm not sure what the current status of it is, but it does already have rudimentary functionality. I bet the developer(s) might appreciate some help working on it, if anyone has the time/coding skills/money/etc to contribute. Somebody else mentioned Tumblr, and that exists too! So many cool projects being worked on, I regularly check this list to see what's new, and it's really heartwarming to see all the work people are putting into making the fediverse such a awesome place. There's even a Tinder-esque dating app!

    Personally, equivalents I would love to see include:

    • Archive of Our Own
    • RPC/F-List/roleplay platform
      • (I'm actually trying to work on one of these myself, but I'm an amateur so don't get your hopes up lol)
    • Etsy
    • Ravelry
    • A search engine
      • (And not just a metasearch using the same index as Google/Bing/etc)
    nycki ,

    Federated f-list already exists, it's called IRC. Honestly I'd love to see an f-chat to IRC bridging tool, so I can add it to my znc bouncer.

    ICastFist ,
    @ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

    I put on my robes and wizard hat...

    CanadaPlus ,

    How do you pronounce "Alovoa"?

    TikTok is a sticky wicket, because video is so heavy and sensitive to network performance. You can maybe federate video, but there's definitely not going to be small instances.

    ICastFist ,
    @ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

    Ah-lo-voh-ah

    CanadaPlus ,

    Thanks!

    curiousaur ,

    Couchsurfing.org

    andrew_bidlaw ,
    @andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Not social media but I'd probably like the idea of social games like these little timekillers from Facebook, chess, worms, poker, whatever that's not that dependent on speed\ping and lightweight. Basically an app platform that can be easily included into other apps. Some different Lemmy communities can even challenge each other or hold events.

    h05 ,

    BeReal

    I'd love to see a federated — or first of all just in any kind open source — version of this.
    I really love their approach of making social media less addictive, but they're starting to introduce some features which I think are counterproductive to their initial concept.

    Since it is just a mobile-oriented product (for obvious reasons like needing two cameras, taking selfies, carrying it around the whole time) it might be hard to build something like that but I guess it would be nice.

    I also have no idea how you would make something like that federated, but the approach might be like that the different instances are working as the BeReal timezones, so the BeReal time might be the same for all members of an instance.

    Maybe someone is working on that, but I guess this will take some more years, because BeReal is not that popular for a long enough time...

    tkk13909 ,
    @tkk13909@sopuli.xyz avatar

    I would love this so much!

    h05 ,

    yay thanks now I know I'm not the only kind of tech, linux, open source, privacy and federation loving person which still uses stuff like BeReal

    nycki ,

    Google search. I want a way of finding stuff based on everyone's tag suggestions, like a booru, but distributed.

    nasi_goreng , (edited )
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    Instead of yet another globally massive social media, I want to see regional social media that's not massive globally, but popular in their country of origin. Or niche social media.

    List so far:

    • Post.news
    • Koo (India)
    • Cohost
    • Hive
    • Plurk (still relatively popular in Taiwan)
    • Lofter (Chinese Tumblr)
    • Xiaohongshu (Chinese version of Instagram and Pinterest on one app, probably Pixelfed can clone their unique UI)
    • Lemon8
    • Weibo

    Art general:

    • Cara
    • Artstation
    • Xfolio
    • Pixiv
    • Deviantart

    Design:

    • Dribbbble
    • Behance

    Hobby specific:

    • Anilist
    • Kitsu
    • Annict (Japanese anime-tracker and social)
    • ComicSpace (Japanese manga tracker)
    • MyAnimeList
    • MyFigureCollection
    • MyDramaList
    crashoverride ,

    I see we're going with this, but it wouldn't work. As there are already alternatives within the larger social media framework, like subreddits and sublemmings? How the hell you want to say it. With the point still stands, that regional social media will never work as there will always be better alternatives within a bigger social media platform

    nasi_goreng ,
    @nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip avatar

    Local social media is different from bigger social media platform.

    Those big social media generally are American/Western-centric. Sure, you can find local community on them, but their moderation system are often still Western-centric.

    You'll surprised on how often other language being moderated (deleted/removed) because it mistaken as hate speech.
    For example, word that in certain language has neutral meaning, but mistaken as offensive in English.

    Also, local social media often designed to local culture.
    Xiaohongshu and Plurk are the primary example. Entirely unique UI and user experience.

    Even fediverse also this cultural-focused software.
    Take a look on Misskey (a Japanese-made fediverse software), it primarily designed for Japanese internet culture, which entirely different from Mastodon or Pleroma.

    crashoverride ,

    Local will never take off tho.theres only one way that can happen and that one thing will never. It is if we broke up all the big social media companies.

    nasi_goreng ,
    @nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip avatar

    They don't need to get big like Meta or any Western social media.

    They simply need to serve their targeted demography well to be able to survive.
    A lot of East Asian platform doing basically that, still alive even after a 15+ years.

    noodle ,
    @noodle@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Tinder, Bumble etc.

    Noodle07 ,

    Hi noodle

    noodle ,
    @noodle@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Noodle? Is it you?! 🤩

    Omega_Haxors ,

    And they say romance is dead.

    narwhal ,

    Wikipedia.

    RandomVideos ,

    Does wikiless count?

    TheAnonymouseJoker ,

    It is like saying Invidious is YouTube, and Bibliogram is Instagram.

    yui ,

    Does everything need to be federated? I don't quite see the appeal of a 'federated' Wikipedia. It's not really social-oriented and you can already export all the pages and rehost it yourself.

    narwhal , (edited )

    I don't know the details on how to rehost wikipedia by myself, and also how to search and access unofficial wikipedia servers either. If this is all common knowlege for internet users, I am seriously lagging behind here. But maybe you are right and there really is no universal appeal for this, and overall people just prefer to see wikipedia as a single entity. But I think there would be benefits in federating wikipedia. Basically it becomes harder to take down information, and allows us to bypass wikipedia's own strictness and bias. I know there are wikipedia alternatives but I would like to be able to access different view points seamlessly in the same platform, just like it happens here.

    nutomic , (edited )
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    Im working on this under the name of Ibis. Hopefully I can announce the first release within a few weeks.

    makeasnek ,
    @makeasnek@lemmy.ml avatar

    There is a nostr app working on this. It's not very far along but it's an interesting idea https://wikistr.com/

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