YSK: lemmy.ml is managed by tankies, and lead lemmy developer is a tankie

Lead Lemmy Developer, Dessalines, denying the Tiananmen Square Massacre and praising the Uyghur Genocide

https://sh.itjust.works/post/8419342

Dessalines AKA "parentis_shotgun" on Reddit, is the main Lemmy dev, also the admin of lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml.

Their post and discussions on Reddit (archive as the original post must have been removed):

https://web.archive.org/web/20230626055233/https://old.reddit.com/r/communism/comments/cqgztr/fuck_the_white_supremacist_reddit_admins_want_me/

Please join the discussions for Lemmy.ml tankie censorship problem:

https://lemmy.world/post/16211417

And the discussions for finding/creating alternative communities on other instances:

https://lemmy.world/post/16235541

What is a tankie?

Tankie is a pejorative label generally applied to authoritarian communists, especially those who support acts of repression by such regimes or their allies. More specifically, the term has been applied to those who express support for one-party Marxist–Leninist socialist republics, whether contemporary or historical.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie

boatsnhos931 ,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/76c0efa8-ca56-43d2-a635-b5009cd15d4f.jpeg

barsquid ,

"Look at the prisoners per capita," lol China has mobile execution vans, my guy.

US for-profit prisons and slavery are still fucked up, don't get me wrong.

AINeMyot ,

China has mobile execution vans

Not heard about this, got a source?

cloudless OP ,
@cloudless@lemmy.cafe avatar

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Execution_van

blackn1ght ,

There's a lot of [Citation needed] tags on a lot of those claims. I'm not denying they exist but it's also a bit of a flimsy source.

i_ben_fine ,

The main source for this is Amnesty International page 76. The relevant text:

In an effort to improve cost-efficiency, Chinese provincial authorities are introducing
mobile execution vans in which convicts are given a lethal injection, replacing the traditional
execution method of firing squads.
Eighteen mobile executions vans, converted 24-seater buses, were distributed to all
intermediate courts and one high court in Yunnan province in 2003. In December of the same
year, the Supreme People’s Court in Beijing urged all provinces to acquire execution vans
“that can put to death convicted criminals immediately after sentencing”. The windowless
execution chamber at the back contains a metal bed on which the prisoner is strapped down.
Once the needle is attached by a technician, a police officer presses a button and an automatic
syringe injects the lethal drug into the prisoner’s vein. The execution can be watched on a
video monitor next to the driver’s seat and can be recorded if required.

And I think barsquid's point is that China is keeping their imprisoned-per-capita low through executions. Even if that's incorrect, China does use execution more liberally than the U.S. And execution is evil.

dannoffs ,
@dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

In the US we call government vehicles that come kill you "police cars"

ZombiFrancis ,

This whole endless debate always just feels like three Dean Brownings in a trench coat.

Fidel_Cashflow ,
@Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml avatar

Wtf based??????

umbrella ,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

oh no!

Cursed ,

Judging from other threads on the matter, a lot of people don't even know what "tankie" means.

So here's a pro tip: replace "tankie" with "dipshit" and the meaning remains the same.

YSK: lemmy.ml is managed by dipshits, and lead lemmy developer is a dipshit

Potatos_are_not_friends ,

That's not a really good example. You can replace "dipshit" with "potato" and it will mean the same too.

otp ,

I can't help but read the first word of your username as rhyming with "Protoss"

mryessir ,

My lemmy client is able to locally block anything I do not want to see.
And I do not want to live in a bubble, so I didn't block .ml.
There are many quality post and comments so I would advise against a premature defederation.

But what do I know

p5yk0t1km1r4ge ,
@p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world avatar

Then kick his ass out?

_haha_oh_wow_ ,
@_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works avatar

Good thing I'm on sh.itjust.works

Maybe I should swap to an Mbin instance instead though... Eh, I like it here and I'm kinda lazy.

therealjcdenton , (edited )
@therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip avatar

We can't just oust them from developing sadly but we can spread the news that they are not a good person

Nacktmull ,
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http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/023/180/notsurprisedkirk.jpg

oce ,
@oce@jlai.lu avatar

FYI, the second main dev, Nutomic, although he doesn't write as much, is in the same ideology, his avatar is Fidel Castro, the Cuban dictator.

During their AMA, 10 months ago, I directly asked them:

Since you’re very upfront with your political preferences, how much did it play a role in motivating you to create Lemmy? Was it a tech experiment first and a political project second?
Do you have some kind of core principle to not let your political preferences excessively interfere with your role as founders, main developers and moderators of Lemmy?

Thanks for your work, it’s projects like that keep the ideal of the open internets alive.
https://lemmy.ml/post/2920188/2385128

They intentionally ignored my questions and answered to other later questions with fewer points.

Eventually, 10 months later, my personal observation is that it seems that they keep their ideology tendencies to their home instance, which is fair enough since people are free to leave and block. And they don't seem to be developing some centralized International political oppression feature into Lemmy, like their role models may have, so far.

Don't forget that you can block an instance personally now.

coolasbreeze ,

I mean... What is your point here? This is the internet no?

eran_morad ,

Read fkn anything on lemmy.ml and this is obvious.

Blaze ,
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Edit: missed that your already mentioned it, I guess the lemmy.ml link might still be useful

A list of alternative communities to the lemmy.ml ones: https://lemmy.ml/post/16531126

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