JD Vance opposes military aid, NATO membership for Ukraine. He's now Trump's VP pick ( kyivindependent.com )

Vance is one of Trump's most vocal supporters and an outspoken critic of U.S. aid to Ukraine.

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Vance has said that it would be "completely irresponsible" for Ukraine to join NATO. He has also argued for the U.S. to focus solely on preventing Chinese expansion, even if that means sacrificing sovereign Ukrainian lands to Russia.

"Any peace settlement is going to require some significant territorial concessions from Ukraine, and you're gonna have a peace deal, because that's the only way out of the conflict," Vance said in February.

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echo ,

Yes, that's kind of a pre-requisite to being on Putin's payroll...

anticolonialist ,

NATO should have been dissolved with the Warsaw Pact. Its nothing more that the European arm of US imperialism

jimmydoreisalefty ,
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I agree that Ukraine has lost land due to the US/NATO stopping Russia-Ukraine peace deals and talks in 2022.

I am anti-war, so peace deals should be at the forefront; war is a Last Resort[1].

Many on the 'far left' and 'far right' say:

NATO is a terrorist organization.

[1] Papa Roach - Last Resort 2020 (Explicit) [03:22 | Rap, Rock, USA, In English, Rap Metal, Mental Health, Metal, Alternative Metal, Nu-Metal] https://youtu.be/D2Jl27lYExU

Illecors ,
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What peace deals were those? Must've missed them.

cabron_offsets ,

That guy’s a useful idiot, look at his history.

jimmydoreisalefty ,
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useful idiot

Great show; I made communities for the hosts!

You reminded me to share a video, thanks!

Useful Idiots is an informative and irreverent politics podcast with journalists @aaronjmate and @kthalps

Chocrates ,

The peace deal where Ukraine gives up its territory.

massive_bereavement ,
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And then Moldova, and then Lithuania, and then Northern Finland, and then I pinky promise peace.

Chocrates ,

I'm not saying I agree, the Russian or GOP troll above is trying to shift the narrative to Ukraine bad, somehow.

gAlienLifeform ,
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Oh yeah, the one that goes "cut my land into pieces, for oligarchs' resorts"

AuroraZzz ,

This sounds like something stupid Joe Rogan would say lol

jimmydoreisalefty ,
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Do you watch Joe Rogan directly or do you just watch people that talk about him and tell you what to think about him?

AbidanYre ,

The guy got famous making people eat blended rats. I don't need to listen to his podcast to know I don't give a shit what he has to say.

massive_bereavement ,
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A hearty diet on bended rats made me who I am today, so I do not recommend it.

FlyingSquid Mod ,
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But what if I told you he sold brain supplements to make his listeners smart?

SeaJ ,

If you are anti-wat, you hoyos be against Russia starting them in the first place or at the very least support making it not worth it in the future. Forcing Ukraine to give up territory is neither of those.

gravitas_deficiency ,

Dear god you are tiresome

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