BustinJiber ,

The industry interference: Here have more of the stinky cancer paper tubes that don't do anything but make you addicted then sooth the addiction.

wheeldawg ,

I wanna see a massive dump of them. All of them. If you gonna smoke smoke weed. Fuck tobacco and anyone who thinks it's cool. They have the freedom to choose for sure, but anyone that chooses that is 100% idiot until proven otherwise.

No ifs, ands, or buts. If you like it, you are part of the problem.

Quitters finally saw the light. People who start smoking in the 2020s are just outright stupid. It's not all over TV anymore, it's not the cool teenage rebellion thing. It's not even hidden knowledge about how bad it is to start, and how hard quitting is. Wtf is making people start now?

oce ,
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Smoking weed will bring a lot of the negative health effects of tobacco smoking. Is it so cool that one may underestimate it? That reminds me of something.

Reverendender ,
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I quit cigarettes, alcohol, and marijuana. Yay mood swings and anxiety! (Don’t worry, I know it’s for the best)

Psythik ,

I mean, if you're feeling worse – is it really for the best?

Reverendender ,
@Reverendender@sh.itjust.works avatar

Cigarettes no problem really, but the other stuff was seriously detrimental to my concentration abilities at work.

oce ,
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Maybe you can get some medicine approved form that helps your anxiety without the negative side effects.

rambaroo ,

Wish so much that I'd never started. This shit is so addictive.

gigachad ,

I'm proud to say I am 3 months smoke free, after 15 years smoking without a break!

tuxtey ,

There ya go, keep it up! And if no one has said it, I am proud of you.

Reverendender ,
@Reverendender@sh.itjust.works avatar

I can confirm, no one has said you are proud of them.

oce ,
@oce@jlai.lu avatar

We're counting on you now

MrNesser ,

Think of all that tobacco farmland that could be converted to food crops

Shard ,

You want to convert something to useful land? Get rid of golf courses.

ClockworkOtter ,

And livestock

otp ,

Livestock is more useful than tobacco and golf courses

ClockworkOtter ,

Debatable. Depending on the golf course location and management, there could be an argument for them at least providing some space for biodiversity.

Tobacco doesn't produce as much of use, but also doesn't come with the same methane emissions, or slurry runoff.

oce ,
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Which golf course isn't an artificial mix of sand, roads and monoculture full of pesticides? I would guess they also have traps against wildlife that may damage their perfect loan.

BaardFigur ,

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  • ClockworkOtter ,

    Not for the same resource input it doesn't.

    Shalakushka ,
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    We have way more than enough livestock. Humans should be eating less meat.

    ClockworkOtter ,

    Sorry for not being clear; that was the point I was trying to make.

    SupraMario ,

    Livestock is one of the reasons we can feed everyone...

    ClockworkOtter ,

    Quite the reverse in fact! Livestock produces fewer calories and nutrients per square meter than crops.

    Reverendender ,
    @Reverendender@sh.itjust.works avatar

    And cemeteries

    Kingofthezyx ,

    Por que no los dos?

    cbarrick ,

    Do we actually need more food crops though?

    I thought we already produced enough food to feed the whole planet. Distribution is the real problem.

    nilloc ,

    Smaller more diverse farms would help, but the grocery stores would have to learn how seasonal, regional crops work. Instead of offering pineapples, kiwis, and strawberries 365 days a year.

    dangblingus ,

    I vote just keeping the fields dormant so we can actually do crop rotation and stave off massive crop failures.

    MrNesser ,

    Personally I'd like to see the fields replaced with the forests that were cut down for them in the first place but that's not likely to happen

    Vendul ,

    I thought we were over it. But there are so many school teenagers on the way to school in my area, smoking. The stinky normal kind. They must be really stressed out?

    pineapplelover , (edited )

    Fuck cigarettes. Vaping is the new thing now 😎

    Edit: woah, I meant it as a joke. Guess I deserve all the downvotes for not clarifying.

    SSUPII ,
    pineapplelover ,

    Hard metals > tobacco

    MrScottyTay ,

    Fuck cigarettes AND fuck vaping. I fucking hate how many people vape at gigs and in line to places. Like fuck off, don't bring me into your bad decisions, keep them to yourself.

    Viking_Hippie ,

    I agree with you that inconsiderate vapers need to fuck off, but when used for its intended purpose, helping adults quit smoking, vaping literally saves lives.

    I tried every other smoking cessation method including prescription medication for 10 out of the 18 years I smoked but it just didn't work for me.

    Then I went from cigarettes to vaping high nicotine to gradually tapering off until I was vaping nicotine free and then not at all. I haven't smoked OR vaped for over 3 years now.

    Pips ,

    Vaping is not intended as a smoking cessation product, it is a cigarette alternative. It happens to help people quit cigarettes, but the tobacco industry does not give two shits whether it does or doesn't. Vaping is addictive and still pretty bad for you.

    SupraMario ,

    There are no studies that have shown yet that vaping is bad for you long term...and don't send over the studies with the popcorn lung or the study of them literally burning a dry wick.

    Bo7a ,

    Nobody gives a shit what it was intended for when it helps people kick two pack a day 25 year cigarette habits.

    Like me. And a few others in this very post's comment section.

    Pips ,

    I'm glad they're helping you kick cigarettes. Vapes are an addictive nicotine product, they weren't created to do anything but get nicotine into people of all ages.

    Bo7a ,

    Sorry, but your opinion doesn't match reality in this case.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/history-of-vaping-who-invented-e-cigs-2019-10

    The inventor of vape juice and the methods for vaping it, was a doctor who was trying to kick his own habit.

    And it is not 'helping' me. It helped. I've been off cigs 7 years, and vape for 2.

    Viking_Hippie ,

    Vaping is not intended as a smoking cessation product

    That's just factually inaccurate.

    it is a cigarette alternative

    It happens to help people quit cigarettes

    By better simulating the habit than other methods. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to make the connection. You have to be a special kind of stupid to confidently deny it, though.

    the tobacco industry does not give two shits whether it does or doesn't

    True, but they're not the ones who invented vapes. In fact, they and organizations sponsored by the sales of "traditional" smoking cessation products were the most ardent advocates for outlawing vapes, for obvious reasons. That some of them have bought Juul and other vape companies is just a cynical way of getting rid of the competition by devouring it.

    Vaping is addictive and still pretty bad for you.

    Which is why it's meant for adult smokers only. It's still nowhere near as addictive and harmful as tobacco, though, so even if you DO accidentally replace one addiction with another, you're still better off than if you had continued smoking.

    Lepsea ,

    If only i can say this to people who drive.

    pineapplelover ,

    Yeah at school I see people vaping all the time. Just saw somebody on campus the other day take a huge huff of it the other day. Those things are huge. I keep thinking it might even be more dangerous than regular cigarettes probably because of its gargantuan size and the ease to just suck up a cartridge without a lighter.

    buycurious ,

    Good

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