OsrsNeedsF2P ,

According to the article, the revenue is down 40%....But the costs are also way down? So this title is totally misleading, and a bunch of Lemmies are out here celebrating because they didn't put 2 and 2 together.

Evotech ,

Well yeah, but means the platform is not growing

ms_lane ,

How much more growth could Twitter have anyway?

Anyone who was interested either had one or had sworn it off well before Musk got involved.

The only thing that changed for me personally was I could previously see tweets from people without having an account, now I can't, so I don't click on twitter links at all. All of the businesses and public services previously announcing things on Twitter do it elsewhere now anyway for that reason.

sproid ,

Mr/s. financial expert, how much is way down? How does the cost vs revenue compared? Is it a net positive or negative. I'll wait for you to put 2 and 2 together to see if I celebrate or not yet.

UnpluggedFridge ,

X lost half a billion dollars in the first quarter of 2023. Odd that the financial expert didn't mention this even though it is literally in the same sentence as the "40% drop in revenue" statement in the article.

dependencyinjection ,

Lemmy is pretty biased and has unrealistic expectations. Like people here still think Reddit going to die, when the fact is we left over the API incident but we’re in the minority and the majority of people don’t care.

I can’t stand X or Elon, but it would be silly to not look at things objectively.

cupcakezealot ,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

that's a shame.. anyone up for boggle?

istanbullu ,

good

cupcakezealot ,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

i hope plunging means up, and 75 means 200

dinckelman ,

I genuinely hope this platform burns to the ground.

I already lost all faith in it a long time ago, but kept my account to occasionally respond to a friend, or just look at feeds i don’t follow.

When he publicly reinstated fascists though, that was the last drop in the ocean of issues

Potatos_are_not_friends ,

The moment Musk fired engineers, I removed my account. Then I watched Twitter integration fail for a few applications Ive worked on, and removed that login/access.

From there, I watched multiple services fail. Ive watched spam bots take over. I watched drama after drama, Musk demanding weird choices like his tweets get priority.

It's such a mess.

yoz ,

Never going to happen. His other companies are highly successful and private so he can always borrow money to from other companies to keep twitter afloat

poplargrove ,

If that's what he's doing, he still wont sink money into Twitter forever.

Frokke ,

You are underestimating musks infantile need to show the world he's not a failure.

Hugin ,

Tesla is not private. He borrowed a huge amount against his Tesla shares to buy twitter. That's one of the reasons he wanted that giant bonus. He needs the money to keep paying off the loans.

yoz ,

And it got approved so 🤷‍♂️

Etterra ,

Honestly I'm surprised it lasted this long since Musky bought it.

Honytawk ,

That just shows the strength of the Twitter brand.

umbrella ,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

and the people's inertia

Auzy ,

I didn't even realise until the other day you need an account to use it now at all it seems.

So no surprise. In the past, I recall you could browse without a login.. so of course nobody is going to put ads on it

Also, why would you want those customers?

LarkinDePark ,

People complain about twitter but I know of no other social media that's as informative and uncensored on current topics like the American genocide in Gaza or their war in the Ukraine.

MeetInPotatoes ,

On the one hand that's good and on the other it makes misinformation extremely easy. Misinformation spreads like wildfire on Twitter and the corrections don't. The corrections get buried in "nuh uh, YOU lie" bot spam unless it gets the community notes treatment.

LarkinDePark ,

I prefer that than someone making my decisions for me and censoring.

Misinformation is already all over the mainstream news so...

MeetInPotatoes ,

False equivalence between Twitter news and mainstream news. Mainstream news has to verify their sources and have a reputation to protect. They retract stories that turn out to be false. As you saw with Dominion, mainstream news has money to protect from slander lawsuits too. It's not perfect and there is certainly bias, but on Twitter there are no guardrails for misinformation besides community notes.

LarkinDePark ,

Mainstream news has to verify their sources and have a reputation to protect.

Well this is just a wildly wrong claim. The mainstream news could tell you that the Sasquatch is real and is behind Russiagate and people would believe it and not give a shit when both are found to be false. Where is Peng Shaui, the Uighur genocide, the invasion of Ukraine was "unprovoked", Israel has a right to defend itself, Hamas raped women, Hamas beheaded babies... These are all things that have been proven wrong and the vast majority of people still believe them. The MSM is just propaganda. It doesn't even have community notes. There's no slander laws between states.

MeetInPotatoes ,

You call my claim wildly wrong and have only this to say?

You fundamentally misunderstand the nature of newsrooms. That you can point to the instances in which they were wrong does nothing to argue that they don't do their best to verify sources, you're missing the fact that it's hard sometimes, missing the fact that mainstream outlets retract statements that turn out to be false later and hedge their bets with wording. Dan Rather lost his career over an unverified source. The NBC headline about the beheaded babies literally says "Unverified reports" in the title.

I think you should read this article about the difficulties of getting the news right in the 24 hour news cycle and educate yourself instead of spewing knee-jerk nonsense which your argument fails to prove. https://www.npr.org/2023/10/24/1208075395/israel-gaza-hospital-strike-media-nyt-apology

vfreire85 ,

good riddance, black banana asylum. you won't be missed.

ssm ,
@ssm@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

A time for celebration

will_a113 ,

When did we get away from saying “X - formerly known as Twitter” ? I liked seeing that gentle nudge in every headline.

Delusional ,

EX-twitter.

DetachablePianist ,

I still prefer 'Xitter'

smokin_shinobi ,

I liked Roman Numeral Ten.

BroBot9000 ,
@BroBot9000@lemmy.world avatar

No we’re past that point. I’d much rather call it X and have the people left on that awful network swallow the jagged X pill instead of kidding themselves into thinking they are still on Twitter.

They are Xers now.

Auli ,

How long do you do that for? He changed it to X who cares how dumb it is that is now the name.

belated_frog_pants ,

Forever to make him mad

Cube6392 ,
@Cube6392@beehaw.org avatar

Never do what a billionaire wants just because they want that. Always make it upsetting for them

Bookmeat ,

It's better to call it X and not continue to soil the Twitter name.

mortemtyrannis ,

Twitter was always shit.

Like all social media.

Bookmeat ,

Yes, but at least it wasn't X.

harrys_balzac ,

I try to refer to it as Xitter. Posts are xeets.

DarkDecay ,

I call them xcrements

pjwestin ,
@pjwestin@lemmy.world avatar

I still get emails from my dormant account, and according to my Gmail, the sender is, "X (formerly Twitter)," so I don't think we're done with that yet.

delirious_owl ,
@delirious_owl@discuss.online avatar

When the domain name changed

Midnitte ,

Strange, it still refers to itself as formally Twitter.
https://beehaw.org/pictrs/image/780f01c7-37e6-4c09-b410-21945c7d8011.webp

interdimensionalmeme ,

It's still twitter, the place for twits, like Elon.

Diplomjodler3 ,

I'd rather store my food in Jeffrey Dahmer's fridge than my money with Elon Musk's company.

Rooskie91 ,

That's why he needed such a high compensation package from tesla lol.

Aeri ,
@Aeri@lemmy.world avatar

The biggest loss here is that I follow a lot of artists on Twitter and when it goes kaput I won't have easy access to follow them.

atocci ,

Any chance they move to the fediverse?

magic_lobster_party ,

Probably near zero chance. Fediverse is dead empty compared to the alternatives, so not ideal if they want to reach out to their fans.

iAmTheTot ,

You know, that's a bit chicken-egg, right? Like, platforms don't magically get users, those users need a reason to want to be there.

silverbax ,

In my personal (and therefore, limited) experience, engagement is much harder to get in the fediverse. I hope it improves, but it's not easy to find people you don't know in order to follow them, and vice versa.

andrew_bidlaw ,
@andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works avatar

And Lemmy doesn't have a button to follow individual users or have a multireddit, for them or for some communities. On Reddit I had my porn subs collected into one tab (+Friends tab) and this didn't show anywhere else, but there it's only solvable by creating another account on lemmynsfw for that while banning all porn on your main acc. Following one creator without their own /c/ is a problem.

IIRC Wordpress had plugins to autorepost into other places. Maybe if Lemmy had one, it could've been perceived as less isolated by OC authors. For now you need to put effort to post a thing there too, for the sake of a small 1 mil userbase.

Blaze , (edited )
@Blaze@reddthat.com avatar

Kbin had them (called collection)

Hopefully mbin will catch up: https://github.com/MbinOrg/mbin/issues/547

Blaze ,
@Blaze@reddthat.com avatar

https://tesseract.dubvee.org/

Tesseract have them

umbrella ,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

i think the reddit/lemmy format is more suited to following communities not people

ICastFist ,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

My bet is most will go either with bluesky or threads, because "everyone is (moving) there"

HatchetHaro ,
@HatchetHaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Quite a few of the artists I follow on Xitter have already prepared backup Bluesky accounts.

yuri ,

My artist friends were actually the ones to introduce me to bluesky! Some of those circles jumped ship pretty early.

Domille ,

I bet they are all on bsky

Aeri ,
@Aeri@lemmy.world avatar

The issue is that even if half of them go there, the rest are scattered to the wind, and you're not guaranteed to find them again.

Nollij ,

Most people are on multiple platforms. Find them now, while you still can. Save whatever contact info you can for them. You don't know when you'll need it, nor why.

slazer2au ,
schwim ,
@schwim@lemm.ee avatar

Schadenfreude intensifies.

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