@bigtuffal and thanks for being open to the discussion! I mean, I DO understand why dairy gets lumped in. About half the dairies in the world are part of the beef cycle. Which IS a big problem. But it's more how we manage cattle and the beef usage than inherent to dairy production. Maintaining beef market means not using the best breeds and methods for dairy, for example. [Similarly, biofuel obsessions and mandates are a poor partner for grain production, significantly bumping impact.]