futurebird ,
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We set up a intranet web server for the CS club and it has student sysadmins and they are having so much fun making accounts, and messing with all the settings. I insisted in the server being a literal computer sitting in the corner of a room because I think it helps them to understand how networks work in a more concrete way.

So much of their experience blends internet, virtual machines, etc in ways that might make it harder to imagine making a network from scratch.

LonM ,
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@futurebird that sounds great. Where I'm teaching right now the primary way to explore complex networks is to use a set of docker containers. It does give experience communicating between machines. It makes it faster and cheaper to set up. But maybe a text file descriptor is a good way of understanding network topology. And trying to debug stuff when one docker setup fails to work while an identical setup works for someone else is a nightmare. The class is at a higher level, so I'm assuming that they have a good mental model of networks already, but I can't be certain.

uguisubari ,
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@LonM @futurebird Show them some of these

futurebird OP ,
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@uguisubari @LonM @futurebird They just children!

kevinriggle ,
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@futurebird oh this is brilliant

bassplayer ,
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@futurebird For a second I thought CS meant Counter Strike. I asked a devops candidate the other day what was the arp protocol used for and all I got was a blank stare.

GeePawHill ,
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@futurebird Whenever I explore a new application with the juniors I work with, they instantly jump to docker and AWS and kubernetes and we're talking about less than 2000 transactions a day.

I'm glad you're grounding them this way. It will make them stronger, I do believe it.

chessert ,
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@futurebird
And that server is running Linux... right?

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