GottaLaff ,
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The things I'm seeing in my replies and elsewhere today just drove me offline for awhile.

My god, people, things are awful, but please don't make them worse.

See you later.

iuculano ,
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@GottaLaff

big strong hug

GottaLaff OP ,
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@iuculano Back atcha

Sharonbw ,
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@GottaLaff
I’m with you.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@Sharonbw Thank you!

SocialistJoe ,
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@GottaLaff It's sure getting wilder out there.

IveyJanette ,
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@GottaLaff Same here. We turned off the news this morning because it was nothing but dissing Biden and indirectly hyping the idiot.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@IveyJanette I'm SICK of this. Raul Grijalva just called for Biden to drop out.

IveyJanette ,
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@GottaLaff Me too. And NONE of them are suggesting whom should replace Biden.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@IveyJanette Of course.

IveyJanette ,
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@GottaLaff Not one suggestion for replacement.

kalfatermann ,
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@GottaLaff

An election campaign is like a birth, you don't stop in the middle and if there are some daddies who faint, OK, let them, the nurses will roll them to the side so no one trips over them. Mother and child are important, not the little overwhelmed Raul Grijalva!

@IveyJanette

unclepj ,
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@GottaLaff 🤗

Snowshadow ,
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@GottaLaff
<sigh> Maybe a walk on the beach will help?⚓ 🐚 Breathe in some of that fresh salty air. Watch out for any low flying seagull dive bombers. lol.
Send me photos of the ocean next time you're there, please.
😀

GottaLaff OP ,
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@Snowshadow Where are the beaches here? White Rock was just rocky shore. Any ideas?

WJBL ,
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@GottaLaff @Snowshadow
Lol, that is what they call a beach there....sorry... It can still be a refreshing walk.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@WJBL @Snowshadow Oh, we've done that, but that's not what I'm looking for right now. We need a tiny bit of sand, too. Kitsilano Beach has a tiny bit, but I'm not driving 45 minutes to get there, alone, today.

Snowshadow , (edited )
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GottaLaff OP ,
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@Snowshadow Oh, here's the link. No, I want a sandy beach, not a pier. We went to White Rock a few weeks ago. We saw all of that stuff. But thanks anyway. @WJBL

Snowshadow ,
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@GottaLaff @WJBL ok. Sorry I couldn't help.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@Snowshadow You tried! @WJBL

Snowshadow ,
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@GottaLaff
What is wrong with rocks?
That is a beach. You can still sit by the water and enjoy the view, and watch for whales, sea otters (if there are kelp beds nearby), seals and gulls.
The sound of the waves and the breeze are relaxing.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@Snowshadow No place to sit. We tried.

Snowshadow ,
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@GottaLaff
darn I sent the links upthread.

ETA: can you find them?

GottaLaff OP ,
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@Snowshadow No. Anyway, it's okay. I'm so pissed right now: Grijalva just came out for Biden to drop out.

Snowshadow ,
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@GottaLaff
Uh oh. ETA Raul?

GottaLaff OP ,
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@Snowshadow Yeah.

GottaLaff OP ,
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Snowshadow ,
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@GottaLaff
Hmmm. Something is afoot. Do you think this might have been planned all along? Who could be waiting in the wings?

GottaLaff OP ,
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@Snowshadow No. I think his debate rattled everyone. Last straw.

Snowshadow ,
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@GottaLaff
But the incumbent has failed the first debate in the past yet went on to victory, or am I wrong?

GottaLaff OP ,
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@Snowshadow It's not debating, people are scared of the age thing. We know he won on points, but he failed on demeanor.

Snowshadow ,
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@GottaLaff
"demeanor" so they want someone to act out like Trump? How the heck do you control a gish gallop...that is not a debate!

GottaLaff OP ,
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@Snowshadow No, they want someone who didn't sound "too old." And that night, he did, unfortunately.

deborahh ,
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@GottaLaff @Snowshadow sad that they seem to equate "old" with "infirm" and "infirm" with "incapable".

GottaLaff OP ,
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@deborahh He was sub-par that night. Not just "old." It was painful, but he bounced back and is fine for now. We have to be frank about how he came across that night, but we also have to realize he's able and can do this. People aren't realizing that. @Snowshadow

zakalwe ,
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@Snowshadow @GottaLaff First debates historically have a pattern of being weak/bad.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@zakalwe Again, this wasn't about a one-off bad debate. This was about his age, something that can't change. We know he was stronger the following night, etc. but that debate was all people see now. @Snowshadow

CatHerder ,
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@GottaLaff @zakalwe @Snowshadow
The debate prep was all wrong.
That was a truth versus lies session. It was a brawl with evil.
There is no definition of debate that comes close to what that shit show was.
If they meet that way again, Joe should go with a cross and some holy water.

MiriShuli ,
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@Snowshadow @GottaLaff Obama is the most recent example that pops to mind.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@MiriShuli Again, Obama had a bad debate. Biden didn't have a bad debate, he won on the substance. What he is having difficulty overcoming is how frail and inarticulate he was. He needed to be bigger than life that night (well, you know what I mean), and he's not able to change his age, nobody can. Obama could change his debate tactics. @Snowshadow

zakalwe ,
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@GottaLaff @MiriShuli @Snowshadow And nobody is cutting him any slack for both having a heavy cold, AND being jet-lagged.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@zakalwe Correct. They should. @MiriShuli @Snowshadow

MiriShuli ,
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@GottaLaff @Snowshadow True. And I’m holding onto the idea that cold medicine had affected Biden also. We’ve seen Biden have a much different demeanor and I assume he will come out swinging shortly.

But, he can’t be 61. He is 81 and frankly, for me, that’s not a problem. He brings so much experience to the table that again, for me, is reassuring.

But I’m old myself. 🤷🏽‍♀️

GottaLaff OP ,
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@MiriShuli @Snowshadow No matter what the reason, we're stuck with this.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@MiriShuli To be clear, he shouldn't drop out. I'm explaining that it's not about a bad debate, it's about age overall. And that night he needed to have energy and strength, visibly. He just didn't. @Snowshadow

GottaLaff OP ,
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@MiriShuli @Snowshadow Trump also can't change who he is: A racist rapist felon.

BUT, to the casual viewer, he came off "stronger." Don't even start me on how wrong this is on every level, but this is what we have.

nazgul ,
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@GottaLaff @Snowshadow Do these folks have any concept of how U.S. elections actually work?
It’s too late to put a new Democrat candidate on the ballot in almost all states.
It’s even too late to put an independent on the ballot in many states.

This isn’t happening. It would be a disaster. And I seriously question the motives of anyone who brings it up.

GottaLaff OP ,
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mmb ,
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@GottaLaff @nazgul @Snowshadow Stephanie Jones did a good job of addressing these logistics. People who are spouting really have not put much thought beyond that. Here she lays it out. (She is lawyer who was on Congressional J6 committee)

The “Biden Replacement Theory” : A Joke That’s Not Funny
https://stephaniejones2.substack.com/p/the-biden-replacement-theory-a-joke

Abrego ,

@nazgul @GottaLaff @Snowshadow

Serious question: if it’s too late to put a new candidate on the ballot, then why have the party convention in August?

GottaLaff OP ,
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emd ,
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@GottaLaff @Snowshadow crescent beach is way less busy. And a bit sandier that white rock

emd ,
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@GottaLaff @Snowshadow the Vancouver beaches are sandier, with places to sit, but they’re crazy busy.

And if you go far enough east/west at white rock it’s not too bad.

(I live in white rock)

GottaLaff OP ,
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@emd Always busy, yes. Where in White Rock is there sand without a bunch of rocks? We couldn't find any and we searched all over. @Snowshadow

emd ,
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@GottaLaff @Snowshadow ya not really any unless the tide is out. That’s why I suggested crescent beach. It’s sandier.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@emd Oh I missed that toot. Thanks. @Snowshadow

GottaLaff OP ,
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@emd @Snowshadow Welp:

"Dogs are not allowed on Surrey beaches between May 15 and September 15 of each year. The exception to this is the off-leash area at Blackie Spit at Crescent Beach."

GottaLaff OP ,
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@emd We don't let Hammy off leash, btw. Nor do we want to be limited to that one area. But great try. @Snowshadow

emd ,
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@GottaLaff bah didn't know about the dog stuff...I don't have one.

Sorry! I'd love to meet hammy too!

GottaLaff OP ,
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@emd You'd love him! Except he barks too much.

steter ,
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@GottaLaff @Snowshadow Sandy beaches really start being abundant in Oregon and south of here. Good luck hunting one down!

Snowshadow ,
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@steter @GottaLaff
West coast of Vancouver Island has some nice sandy areas, not a lot but Long Beach is nice.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@Snowshadow That's what I thought! Thank you! @steter

Snowshadow ,
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@GottaLaff The daily commute could be a problem though. 🤦 @steter

GottaLaff OP ,
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@Snowshadow Yeah, we experienced that once when we went there. Stopped traffic for an hour. @steter

Snowshadow ,
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@GottaLaff Crossing the Straight of Georgia during rush hour...😂

@steter

GottaLaff OP ,
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peteriskrisjanis ,
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@GottaLaff things are difficult. They are not awful. Social media somehow makes people to amplify their worst instincts, including panic. Take care.

rgbenderkc ,
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@GottaLaff Sorry! Kansas resident here, I'm voting for Joe Biden in November. I have and will never waver.

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