@epidiah oh yeah they're switching to "pipewire" right? Kinda surprised they weren't there already, it seems like a lot of distros have been using it. I hope whatever is preventing it from working with PulseAudio happens to not prevent if from working with Pipewire.
I mean, I can get the thing I want to work on PulseAudio, but only by hijacking the entire sound system and if I don't remember to put things back the way they were, I have to reboot to listen to things again. So, technically, I can play with sound, but fingers crossed for a more seamless experience.