selzero ,
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Still angry at the Dems for propping up Biden like a bad Weekend at Bernie's sequel.

But at least on this side of the pond we are about to kick the god damn Tories out.

apgarcia ,
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@selzero Biden is only human. He got sick at an inopportune time. I think he'll bounce back.

selzero OP ,
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@apgarcia people like Gavin Newsome are right there and we are out here playing hoping games with the balance of the world because the Dem party wants its boy.

apgarcia ,
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@selzero Biden already beat Trump once. I don't see why he can't do it again.

selzero OP ,
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@apgarcia yes yes he can.

Any articulate charismatic person on that ticket would have ended the probabilities on this. It would have been over already.

But there is a possibility Biden can win, and the upper echelons of the Dems really really want it to be him, so let's play dice with the future of the world. 🤦🏼

apgarcia ,
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@selzero

> Any articulate charismatic person on that ticket would have ended the probabilities on this. It would have been over already.

I don't think that's necessarily true. Trumposos are irrational and unreachable, no matter how articulate and charismatic his opponent may be. I just think Biden had a bad debate showing. He won in substance, as far as I'm concerned. What pisses me off is when I see an outlet like the New York Times posting an editorial saying Biden should step aside.

selzero OP ,
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@apgarcia

No let the Trump fans vote Trump.

They are currently sharing 30% + in the polls. Those voters are baked in and won't change.

It's the remaining %40 unaligned that will decide the election.

Giving the Republicans the excuse that Biden is past it is eating into that 40% completely unnecessary.

Gavin Newsom would have ended this election already, even simply on the abortion issue. It would have been over already.

But no.

Play dice with the future of the world 🤦🏼

otownKim ,
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@selzero @apgarcia Actually that's not true. Many people find Newsome Way to Liberal. I'm a Newsome Fan but President Biden came out in North Carolina yesterday on fire! He admitted he had a bad night. The NYT and WaPo are shit conservative rags anymore! Also CNN sucks! No fact checking only helped the Orange shit stain

CatDragon ,
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@otownKim @selzero @apgarcia I heard that speech and he was like a different person.
I look at it as him having a really bad night. I’ve been there when I’ve been sick or overtired. It’s called being human.

selzero OP ,
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@CatDragon @otownKim @apgarcia Newsom may be a bit too left for some people, but he is not Bernie or AOC. Floating voters wouldn't mind his liberal policies, in comparison to the felon rapist egomaniac, they would take that hit.

We now have a battle of narratives around Biden's mental state, which is completely unnecessary.

otownKim ,
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@selzero @CatDragon @apgarcia Drumpf is the Mental one. Biden is Old

selzero OP ,
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@otownKim @CatDragon @apgarcia I know that. You know that. But it's unnecessarily a nationwide subject of debate now. A handicap of the Dems own making.

CatDragon ,
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maggiejk ,
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@CatDragon @otownKim @selzero @apgarcia one of the Substack newsletters I read embedded a clip of him talking in 2019, it really is like a totally different person, the Covid damage is pretty evident at this point. And he keeps catching Covid over and over to prove a point, and it’s not working.

CatDragon ,
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@maggiejk @otownKim @selzero @apgarcia did you hear his rally the day after?
Look he’s not my first choice, however some of this focus is ageism . Also should Orange Julius Caesar get re-elected and project 25 put in place it’s going to destroy the lives of people I love and countless others.

otownKim ,
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@CatDragon @maggiejk @selzero @apgarcia I'm almost 60. I'm up there too. But Biden is literally just old. He's not a Rapist, Xenophobic, Traitor POS He's done so much good legislation

CatDragon ,
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@otownKim @selzero @apgarcia let’s just say I’ve been retired for a little bit.

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