mikertrice ,
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Asked ChatGPT4 to give me 12 dwarven names with short back stories and a hook each.

All 12 names were from the Hobbit.

Asked it to try again with no Tolkien names.

3 of the 12 were from the Hobbit.

mikertrice OP ,
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Also, the backstories are cliched nonsense. Apparently this society is 70% soldiers and mercenaries. Not a single farmer nor rancher. The only craft worker: a blacksmith.

Tim_Eagon ,
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@mikertrice Cliched nonsense from a generative AI service? You don't say?

mikertrice OP ,
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@Tim_Eagon This society would collapse fast.

Tim_Eagon ,
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@mikertrice Not if they eat rocks and the corpses of their enemies, just saying...

Tim_Eagon ,
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@mikertrice The Tolkien estate is going to be mad...

mikertrice OP ,
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@Tim_Eagon It's weird because D&D dwarven names really should make up a larger percentage of the dataset.

mikertrice OP ,
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@Tim_Eagon Flint Fireforge lacks the cultural capital of Thorin, but he definitely has more books out there with his name in them.

Tim_Eagon ,
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@mikertrice Flint may appear in more actual books, but the can you imagine how much has been written about the Tolkien oeuvre online? Flint and most D&D dwarves would be a mere footnote from that perspective.

mikertrice OP ,
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@Tim_Eagon True. It really raises a lot of questions about training data.

Tim_Eagon ,
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@mikertrice I googled "Thorin Oakenshield" and I got 1.67 million results; searching for "Flint Fireforge" returned 25,700.

mikertrice OP ,
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@Tim_Eagon Yep. Which is fascinating as it suggests a lot of Gen AI is blog content.

Tim_Eagon ,
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@mikertrice Definitely, plus wikis and forums.

artemis ,
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@Tim_Eagon @mikertrice
To be fair, the Tolkien estate doesn't own most of those names because Tolkien lifted them straight out of obscure mythology.

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