hrefna ,
@hrefna@hachyderm.io avatar

Stop sharing things that discourage people from donating to charity because you saw in a meme that a corporation is doing something that they aren't actually doing.

Thanks.

tuban_muzuru ,
@tuban_muzuru@ohai.social avatar

@hrefna

... if you're in doubt as to a charities' worthiness, consult the Charity Navigator site.

https://www.charitynavigator.org/

hrefna OP ,
@hrefna@hachyderm.io avatar

"rounding up is just a scam so that the company gets a tax writeoff."

No, they don't get a tax writeoff. You can take the (37 cent or whatever) tax writeoff if you keep the receipt. But they can't.

"Donating at the register is just a way that they can get the tax writeoff…"

Again. They don't get a tax writeoff. You can take the ($1 or whatever) tax writeoff. But they can't.

"But I don't trust them not to do it anyway"

There are better ways to commit tax fraud if that's the goal here.

hrefna OP ,
@hrefna@hachyderm.io avatar

I ate at a restaurant a few weeks back that was doing a "n% of proceeds from today go to charity" thing.

That was a tax writeoff for them.

But if they asked me to donate at the register? That's me donating. If they ask if I want to round up? That's me donating. Since it is me donating it is my tax writeoff.

This is extremely well established in terms of how it works and this has been debunked again and again and again.

hrefna OP ,
@hrefna@hachyderm.io avatar

Now. There are a variety of reasons you might not want to do it anyways. I do not want to donate to my local police fund, for instance, and sometimes their choices of who the money goes to are pretty sketchy. Sometimes they are great, sometimes not

So it isn't just a "oh absolutely always round up!"

But the reason to do it or not do it is because you don't want to donate the ($0.37 or whatever) to that charity

Not because the company is taking a tax writeoff for your donation instead of you

Caution ,
@Caution@tech.lgbt avatar

@hrefna Do you happen to know if this is US specific,or are you familiar with the structures of - for example - Canada, or the UK?

hrefna OP ,
@hrefna@hachyderm.io avatar

@Caution I'm not overly familiar with other governments in this regard (it's extremely in the weeds of tax policy), and I have no idea at all for the UK.

But! From what I can tell, the answer in Canada is "no one gets a tax benefit": https://www.cbc.ca/radio/costofliving/checkout-donations-nobody-gets-tax-benefit-1.6524462

thisismissem ,
@thisismissem@hachyderm.io avatar

@hrefna I always thought corporate donation schemes like these gave the corporations the tax write off, because the money is transferred to their accounts, then to the charity (hopefully)

hrefna OP ,
@hrefna@hachyderm.io avatar

@thisismissem Nope, at least not in the US. The corporation acts as a processor, but it is just as as processor (technical term is collection agent): they don't keep the money and it isn't ever their money to donate.

This is very different from situations where they say "we will donate n% to $charity." That is their money to donate because you've paid it, but when they've collected it as a gift, that's not theirs, so not their writeoff.

https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxvox/who-gets-tax-benefit-those-checkout-donations-0

donaldball ,
@donaldball@triangletoot.party avatar
hrefna OP ,
@hrefna@hachyderm.io avatar

@donaldball

  1. "was sued"

  2. Did you actually read the article? What they are accused of doing is not using it as their own tax writeoff or even for their own benefit, but as a deduction from an amount that they had agreed to donate.

  3. "The ADA for its part confirmed it is receiving the proceeds of in-store donations" again, did you read the article?

The question is whether they need to donate $10 million sans customer donations or whether they need to donate $10 million.

donaldball ,
@donaldball@triangletoot.party avatar

@hrefna Oh, you’re that kind of person. Cool, cool.

hrefna OP ,
@hrefna@hachyderm.io avatar

@donaldball The kind who actually reads sources and who values correctness? Yes.

Also the kind who blocks mansplainers, especially the kind who drives by with articles they haven't read with no further commentary as if it means something.

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