LeviKornelsen ,
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I'm absolutely gonna be backing the new Ars Magica, because obviously, and then bounding off that open license to make at least one weird, light thing.

CC-BY-SA isn't my #1 license - I think that because sharealike clauses require openness, they can prompt grudging reciprocity rather than the trust-for-trust of plain sharing, but that's like, just my opinion, man. It's still in the top five, so hell yeah to that.

Johnnephew ,
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@LeviKornelsen I'm still open to change, but it seems like the best fit at this point. I was seriously considering going "Assign to the Public Domain," but the last thing I want is for ArM to be Disneyfied.

I believe offering a CC-BY-SA license to the world at large would not preclude us from offering other licenses to other parties with different terms (with or w/o SA). But it would give a safe harbor to lots of creative projects, without requiring permission or action (or admin) on our part.

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    @LeviKornelsen This is definitely something for us to think about.

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    @LeviKornelsen I've been pondering this and looking more closely at the CC-BY license, and I am not sure that CC-BY and CC-BY-SA are incompatible. In CC-BY 4.0, 2(a)5.B says: " No downstream restrictions . You may not offer or impose any additional or different terms or conditions on, or apply any Effective Technological Measures to, the Licensed Material if doing so restricts exercise of the Licensed Rights by any recipient of the Licensed Material." But it does not say Adapted Material.

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    @LeviKornelsen Precisely because it is NOT "share-alike," you CC-BY allows you to create Adapted Materials and apply restrictions, just as you can make derivatives of public domain/CCO Works and assert copyright with all rights reserved (see: Disney).

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    @LeviKornelsen I think you actually could. The part that is cut-and-pasted would not suddenly be turned into CC-BY-SA, but nor would its presence force the rest of the work to be CC-BY.

    Again, think of CC-BY as being "public domain but you must provide attribution." I can copyright my art book with a bunch of paintings of the Dutch Masters and a few paragraphs of commentary; that does not remove those works from the public domain, nor does it turn my commentary into public domain.

    UtilityNerd ,
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    @LeviKornelsen Same. Exactly what level I back it at will depend on The Dollars, but yeah, gotta use it for something. Maybe skip past modern and go right to space wizards.

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