Project 2025 Architect Signals Bloodshed If Left Opposes Trump-Led 'Revolution' ( www.commondreams.org )

The president of the right-wing group spearheading Project 2025 raised the specter of violence Tuesday against those who refuse to capitulate to what he characterized as "the second American Revolution" ushered in by presumptive GOP nominee and would-be authoritarian Donald Trump.

Kevin Roberts, head of the Heritage Foundation, said in an appearance on "Real America's Voice" that the coming "revolution" will "remain bloodless if the left allows it to be"—a thinly veiled threat against those who resist the far-right's efforts to seize power.

Trump said in April that whether there is violence surrounding the 2024 presidential election "depends" on the "fairness" of the contest and the outcome.

Watch Roberts' remarks:

https://x.com/kylegriffin1/status/1808507354310209711

"We are going to win. We're in the process of taking this country back," declared Roberts, who has said Project 2025 is "institutionalizing Trumpism" in preparation for a possible victory in November.

LordCrom ,

That is some abusive spouse language right there. "If you would just behave I wouldn't have to hit you." Type shit

UltraGiGaGigantic ,

Just a average human being. Base humanity. This is who we are.

Adding extra steps to the jungle does not make us civilized.

makeasnek ,
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Put money and effort towards the cause https://defeatproject2025.org/

PlantDadManGuy ,

I did my part 🙋

demizerone ,

This man will get what he deserves at some point.

ripcord ,
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No he won't.

Yawweee877h444 ,

Either, you're a hopeful optimist, which is misplaced. Or, you believe in some version of "karma", in which case you're simply superstitious, which is an even worse way of thinking. Bad people do bad things and get away with it without any accountability all the time.

Belastend ,

both parties are exactly the same, both parties are exactly the same, both parties are exactly the same, both parties are exactly the same

Theprogressivist OP ,
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Congratulations on adding absolutely nothing to the conversation.

Belastend ,

did i really need to mark this as satire?

CharlesDarwin ,
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This country is so fucked. Much of the culture is checked out; a lot of the left/liberal movement seem to be up its own asshole in goofy pandering that seems designed to only churn out more donnie voters, and the cons are making plans, and basically announcing them to everyone.

Also, I'll vote Biden no matter what this fall, but the Democratic Party had better seriously consider removing him and selecting someone else. Otherwise, Biden's chief legacy that is actually remembered will be helping to enable the dismantling of this country by being so egotistical as to think he's the only one that could beat donnie in 2024.

nexusband ,
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He doesn't need to beat him with the latest rulings...

drbluefall ,
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Do you believe, in any measure, that Biden would use the power the latest rulings give him?

Even if we assume he did, what would stop the current Supreme Court from just drawing a chalk outline around the exact thing he did, calling it unofficial, and then charging him anyway?

The ruling was made to empower Trump, and those that puppeteer him. No one else.

makeasnek ,
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It's not Biden, it's the DNC's primary voters. They elected the guy, not once, but twice, maybe because he actually does a decent job and beat Don last time. There was a primary this year, I voted in it, there was more than one candidate (though I would have preferred even more), Biden actually lost a primary in American Samoa. I voted for him though, he was clearly the best of the options, nobody else even remotely competitive stepped up to be president.

CharlesDarwin ,
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That's just it, though - because he decided to run again, and is an incumbent, very few challenged him.

rsuri ,

Yeah the thing I really can't understand is why did the voters pick Biden in 2016? Even on the moderate side of the party there were much better choices. The democratic voters who just seem to pick the name they're most familiar with - Clinton, Biden - those are the people who made Trump happen.

I think the majority of Democratic voters just assume the most familiar name is the most electable in the general, but as we've seen that's simply not the case. Ironically, if it feels like Democrats run the worst candidates against Trump, that's probably not an accident. Trump makes Democratic voters pick the "safest" candidate, who turns out to be the least electable.

makeasnek ,
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They picked Hillary in 2016, not Biden. But you're right generally.

immutable ,

Back in 2016 the voters actually weren’t super excited about Biden either.

Biden did pretty badly in the first 3 primaries

Feb 3rd in Iowa he came in 4th place behind Sanders, Buttigieg, and Warren.

Feb 11th in New Hampshire he came in 5th place behind Sanders, Buttigieg, Klobuchar, and Warren.

Feb 22nd in Nevada he came in 3rd place behind Sander and Warren.

After these pretty awful results there was a brief period when Sanders was considered the front runner and the DNC shit a brick. You might recall Chris Matthews on MSNBC speculating wildly about a Sanders presidency meaning “executions in Central Park” that was February 8th.

Biden was thrown a life line though by Jim Clyborn who strongly supported him and gave him his first victory in South Carolina on February 29th. A state that would go on to vote trump on Election Day.

This strong showing though was enough for the DNC to see a way to have a moderate candidate win the primary. If they could get the moderate candidates, Klobuchar, Buttigieg, and Biden to stop splitting that voting block they could stop a more progressive candidate like Sanders or Warren from taking the nomination. Internally the DNC feared that a more progressive candidate would win the primary and lose in the general and wanted a safer option.

The day before Super Tuesday when 15 states would hold their primaries, the more moderate candidates reached an agreement. Buttigieg and Klobuchar announced they would drop out of the race and throw their support behind Biden. In the days before these announcement polling showed Sanders likely to win a plurality of the Super Tuesday delegates. After the moderate candidates lined up behind Biden he won 10 of the 15 contests, losing California, Colorado, Utah, and Vermont to Sanders and American Samoa to Bloomberg.

Buttigieg would be rewarded with his current position as Secretary of Transportation and Klobuchar would end up Chair of the Senate Rules Committee (although it’s less clear how much that was because of her dropping out).

With a victorious Super Tuesday the media rallied around Biden’s amazing reversal of fortune and the Chris Matthews of the world finally had a light at the end of the tunnel for the horrors of a Sanders presidency, line up behind Joe.

An interesting foot note is that of the states holding primaries on Super Tuesday, of the 10 that went for Biden, 6 (7 if you count Maine but I wouldn’t) would go on to vote for trump on Election Day, Alabama, Arkansas, 1 of 4 of Maine’s votes, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Tennessee, and Texas. All the states carried by Sanders, except Utah, reliably voted for Biden in the general.

So the DNC, worried about losing the general election, rallied their moderate candidates around Biden, who was losing fairly badly. His overperformance in states that would ultimately vote Republican ended up changing the narrative enough that he became presumptive nominee status on the eyes of the media. This status became generally accepted on April 8th when Sanders pulled out of the race, but you can find the media pushing this in March

ZombieMantis ,
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Just once, there wasn't a real primary this year. All the alternate frontrunners (Newsone, Whitimer, Butigeg, etc.) stayed out of the race, following the lead of the Party and letting Joe run virtually unopposed.

Very few people, if anyone, took any of the other candidates as anything more than protests to pressure the Biden campaign into turning left.

makeasnek ,
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That's a "real primary". A democratic process doesn't mean you'll like all the options, just that anybody is welcome to participate and become an option if they want and you can vote for them if you want. Few people ran because there was no reason to run, they already had a very strong candidate. But if they'd won the primary vote, they would have replaced Biden. I don't say my city elections aren't "real elections" because only one or two people run for a position, that's just who showed up, it's as real an election as any other.

If you are knowledgeable about how US elections work, you know that if you vote for somebody in the primary and they win the general, they will probably be the primary winner/default pick for the next cycle too since it gives them an advantage. If they fuck up badly enough, somebody else can beat them in the next primary, it's happened before.

Sam_Bass ,

His will be first.

SpiceDealer ,
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My teenage fantasies of armed rebellion are finally coming true!

BigMacHole ,

It's a good thing we have a President who understands that if he DOESN'T grow a Spine his entire Family will be Executed by the King Of The United States!

xantoxis ,

We already oppose it. Shoot your guns if you're not a fucking coward.

floquant ,

How though? With nasty posts on the interwebs?

GiddyGap ,

It would be great if the US could join reality with the rest of the developed world at some point. FFS, America. You're not doing well.

Etterra ,

We know, please help us.

AutistoMephisto ,
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Honestly. It would be nice if a former fascist government sent troops to liberate us. Germany, want to return the favor we did you back in the 1940s? We need the help, and maybe you can prevent a new Holocaust. Now, I'll grant that it will be tougher, as we are a nuclear power and nuclear powers can pretty much do what they want on the world stage. You guys didn't have those when we came along and cleared out your fascists. Don't worry, though. If you do send a force to liberate us, I'll comply with all their orders and give them whatever assistance they need.

Belastend ,

Yeah, lemme just get our 30 functipning helicopters and ask the tankers if they can come up with more than 100 leopards. Maybe we'll find some. Aaaand can you borrow us some guns? Our G-36 gets all inaccurate and jammy when hot.

p5yk0t1km1r4ge ,
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You think the majority of us wants this?

CharlesDarwin ,
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Indeed. This country is so rigged to favor the cons due to how unevenly things are tilted to the rural areas and giving them far too much of a voice. The cons are WAY over-represented in Congress and a con has not won the popular vote in how long?

makeasnek ,
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If only the DNC didn't totally abandon those areas.

Yeller_king ,

Was it thinly veiled? Where is the veil?

krashmo ,

Call me naive if you like but that doesn't seem like a direct threat to me. It sounds like him playing into the violent antifa caricature of a leftist they're always going on about. He's saying they're going to win peacably but are prepared to defend their liberties if the evil leftists force them to. At least I think that's how most of the people he's trying to reach with those comments would interpret them.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think guys like him have any problem with using violence as a means to achieve their goals, and this is very likely part of the plan to plant the seeds of violence in people's minds. I just don't think this is him being so blunt as to state that they want to execute political opponents outright. I could certainly be wrong about that but I don't think that will happen until they're already doing it.

Theprogressivist OP ,
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Yep. You're naive.

electric_nan ,

We all hope it doesn't come to that, but please arm yourselves and train with your weapons. Get a cheap AR in 5.56/.223, and a pistol in 9mm. These are very common calibers. At least as important as that, make sure you know some people you can trust in your community. Do it now while you can. Guns and ammo will get more expensive as we get closer to the election.

thanatotus ,

So he is the real life sister sage, huh?

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