The Times of Israel has reported that the Israeli military detected the activation of Hamas phones using Israeli SIM cards 6 hours before the attack on October 7th.
This reporting suggests that the Israeli military had prior knowledge to the attack and most likely allowed it to happen.
“Genocide”. Good one. So… you’re supporting #hamas then? A “government” whose charter literally calls for killing all #jews ? Hides its weaponry in schools and hospitals? And whose leaders want MORE civilian death?
@thetechtutor@faab64@palestine@israel You’re probably the dumbest jew I ever seen. Being a jew doesn’t mean you support Israel. Not all jews are Israeli and vice versa. Not all jews support Israel because they knew what Israel and the zionists are doing to the Palestinians. I’ve seen jews that are smarter than you and even those support Palestine.
@thetechtutor
Funny words, coming from someone who "supports the unequivocal right" of an apartheid state "to exist". Here's your article: https://archive.is/tXZXV -- enjoy
It's a real story. The thing is, such things have already happened several times before. So it wasn't a definite red flag. However, there were also other warning signs. So a tactical team was put on the alert (although not the whole units on the border).
Some people mentioned an issue with the link, so I repeat it.
Israeli journalists knew about this esim story for quite some time. Israeli censorship asked them not to publish it as it exposes intelligence capabilities. They agreed also because it wasn't a big deal:
There were other warning signs, and this was already discussed by journalists. But somehow noone considered such a large scale attack.
Ever since Oct-7th, Netanyahu and his supporters try to shift the blame away from him in any possible way. One method is to come up with various conspiracy theories about how the "system" knew and didn't alert Netanyahu (the "all powerful savior"), or even worse: conspired with the enemies.
This is yet another part. It was "leaked" by Channel 14, the Netanyahu-supporting broadcasting news channel. And originally claimed 1000 of sim cards.
I’ve seen the story. And others. And FWIW: I believe that #Netanyahu would do anything to stay in power including ignoring a warning that an attack was imminent. He’s a scum.
But it doesn’t matter: had #Israel acted quickly and attacked first to foil #hamas they’d have been vilified anyway.
no state has "a right to exist". Colonial, murdering, apartheid states even less so. People, however, do.
Now go and educate yourself, including on what arcive.is is, before you make even more of a fool of yourself. Let me know when you're done, pup, so I can go ahead with the block.
@morpheo
Well, he is a typical American PEFP, "Progressive Except For Palestine", it's funny to read his comments, because he went from "it is not true", to "I knew the s before" followed by justifying Maas murder of palestinians by repeating the lies of IDF.
I don't engage with them, after 40 years of dealing with blind supporters of Israel, even those back in Sweden who tried hard to convince me the order by Israeli PM to break the arms and legs of palestinians during the first Intifada was an act of mercy "to prevent them from dying" and when they so viciously attacked me about calling Israel responsible for mass murder of palestinians in #Sabra and #Chatila during the Lebanese occupation.
I'm sure he still going to stand by his post from last month about the baseless lies of Israel regarding UNRWA and starvation of palestinians by Jewish Terrorists blocking the entry of food aid to Gaza. @palestine@israel@thetechtutor
@faab64 Yeah, Sweden truly is a special case. I've been talking about Palestine for way over 30 years and the Swedes still vacation in Israel, even though they've been told what happens on occupied lands.
@faab64@morpheo@israel
I 100% stand by my post & with Israel’s right to exist in peace, free from decades neighbors waging war on her after declaring statehood.
And for 100s of years before then when #jews were exiled from their ancestral land and from most other Arab nations for… being #jews
You’re not a good faith addition to this dialogue as you ignore history. You simply wish #israel gone.
Only, It’s not leaving. Ever. And Neither are Jews.
Pictures of dying babies are TRULY awful, yes. Gut wrenching in every way.
Have you seen the pictures of the burned or bullet-ridden babies that #Hamas murdered in front of their parents?
Maybe you've seen the pics or reports of the women whose genitals were mutilated with bullets & staples after being raped by Hamas #terrorists on #October7
It sounds like you hate pictures of dying or dead innocents. So I'm guessing you'll condemn those atrocities as well, no?
@thetechtutor
Tell me again how you call yourself BLM supporter but support the actions of the most despicable right wing regime in Israel modern history?
The sad part is your inferiority complex actually makes you think you are on the right with your pathetic hypocrisy.
You are not worth blocking, it's not often I come across such a clown PEFP online.
@morpheo@thetechtutor Netanyahu was PM during Nakba?
Netanyahu was PM during Invasion of Lebanon?
Netanyahu was PM during massacres of Sabra and Chatila?
Netanyahu was president during Jenin massacre?
Netanyahu is just the top of an iceberg, one leader of many, the root of the problem is the apartheid system and illegal occupation of Palestinian land.
But a BLM supporter like you can;t understand that, because it goes against yore PEFP principals.
We seem to have a problem here. You can’t stop yourself from calling me names even when I ask you a straight up question.
Put down the anger, champ: talk with me.
I’m no fan of Netanyahu, so you and I probably see eye to eye on his needing to be removed from power.
Can you explain why you think that #israel is an occupier? Also, if you don’t believe in borders or nations then wouldn’t ANY nation be abhorrent to you?
Nitpick; People keep mentioning Sabra and Shatila. It fueled the existing wave of protests, and eventually drove PM Begin to resign.
You somehow never hear of Karantina massacre where Christians backed by Syrian troops killed thousands of Palestinians (and sparked a chain of such attacks between Palestinians and Christians).
"The right to exist" is so that is normally taken for granted. It's a basic element of sovereignty. For instance, article 51 of the United Nations Charter:
"Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations".
UNGA Resolution 3314 (1974) affirmed the right of self-determination, freedom, and independence for all “peoples under colonial and racist regimes or other forms of alien domination,” and affirmed the “right of these peoples to struggle to that end and to seek and receive support.”
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UNGA Resolution 37/43 (1982) reaffirmed the “inalienable right” of the Palestinian people “and all peoples under foreign and colonial domination” to self-determination. It also reaffirmed the legitimacy of “the struggle of peoples for […] liberation from colonial and foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means, including armed struggle.”
2-3 Fourth Geneva Convention under Protocol I (1977) expanded the scope of the law, explicitly affirming that it applies to situations including “armed conflicts in which peoples are fighting against colonial domination and alien occupation and against racist régimes in the exercise of their right of self-determination.”
Protocol Additional to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949, and relating to the Protection of Victims of International Armed Conflicts (Protocol I), June 8, 1977.
You can't hide behind selective UN rules and laws when you are an occupation regime and palestinians are rightfully fighting against you.
@tzafrir
Netanyahu is not the problem,the illegal occupation and the apartheid state of Israel is.
Hamas is not the problem, suffocating millions of palestinians in Gaza for the past 9 years is.
It's nauseating to see such ridiculous simplified nonsense about symptoms of a problem just to avoid the underlying cause of these never ending circle of violence.
End the occupation, end the blockade of Gaza, release 10000 Palestinians hostages from Israeli prison and detention, disband illegal settlements in occupied West Bank, remove all Israeli troops from occupied territories and you will have a chance to reach peace @morpheo@thetechtutor@palestine@israel
The blockade on Gaza is related to that half of the problem: the Hamas. This conflict should be resolved with the Hamas no longer controlling the Gaza Strip and with a single Palestinian entity.
Right now the existence of Hamas is the common interest of both Hamas and Netanyahu.
Hamas is like a fever caused by an infection called Israeli illegal occupation and apartheid system.
Before Hamas it was PLO, after Hamas it will be another group that Israel will use to justify it's criminal actions.
The existence of Israeli illegal settlements, it's illegal kidnapping, torturing, raping and murdering Palestinians in the past 75 years is the problem.
Stop blaming the problem on the symptom of you don't dare admitting the cause of the groups like Hamas being created.
I hate it when people keep bringing up this map. Between 1949 and 1967 there was no land under Palestinian control. You don't have to like it. But please don't call this "history".
It was a land of the Mandatory Palestine, under Arab control. As such, the small plot that has been under Syrian control is left out. But not under Palestinian control. Neither of the Palestinian government (until 1959) nor of the PLO (since 1964).
Right now Hamas short-range missiles only target a few towns and one city.
If we have a Palestinian state, and Hamas takes over, Hamas short range missiles can target a large portion of Israel, including the capital and the main airport.
(Yes, there are ways to counter that, but it has a major effect on public opinion)
Hamas did not surge in a vacuum, It's the result of decades of occupation, of betrayal by Israel and Western negotiations, of the bankruptcy of the secular PLO (Fatah in particular), of Israel's divide and conquer policy. Hamas is not the origin of the problem, but the result of decades of oppression.
But furthermore, what Israel is doing is destroying the Palestinian people under the pretext to "destroy Hamas".
@tzafrir
Yeah, my bad. I should've written that you support the displacement of Palestinians and the annectation of Palestinian land:
"If we have a Palestinian state, and Hamas takes over, Hamas short range missiles can target a large portion of Israel, including the capital and the main airport."
In this context, I was answering someone who asked about the West Bank, so this refers to a Palestinian state in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank. And specifically to the West Bank.
And I was trying to convey popular opinion in Israel as to why the threat from a Hamas State decreased the support for a Palestinian state in Israel.
@tzafrir Funny. Other relatively popular opinions in Israel seem to be "kill all the arabs", "block the humanitarian aid" and "let's meet at Sderot Cinema, and cheer the bombs". Not sure "popular opinions in Israel" should be our guideline.