MBM ,

Isn't fren one of those words used by 4chan as a dogwhistle? Feels a bit icky when talking about WW2 Japan

figjam ,

We can take it back.

Gsus4 ,
@Gsus4@mander.xyz avatar

urban dictionary says it stands Far-Right-Ethno-Nationalist turns out you're probably right. But I like saying frens 😅

slurpeesoforion ,

Is that like Kids In Satan's Service? Or is it a real thing?

ZombiFrancis ,

Originating from 4chan means it occupies a little of both.

For example: 4chan intentionally trolled mainstream American media to make the 'ok' finger gesture be white supremacist, because it wasn't a symbol. But then the media reported it was a symbol AND white supremacists started using it. So the 'ok' symbol now being a white supremacist symbol is quite real.

Any amount of sewage in a soup makes the soup sewage. Only question is was the soup made with sewage or was the sewage added later. This meme being related to current events indicates the likelihood the creator is aware of the connotation as 'high.'

slurpeesoforion ,

Ah. Well there ya go.

Estiar ,

I learned something today, and I'm disappointed

ILikeBoobies ,

It meant friend long before that

If you dilute their ability to use it as a dog whistle then it loses the ability to

The okay symbol worked because people typically didn’t use it that often

CptEnder ,

BY GOD, IT'S INDIA FROM THE WEST!

Titou ,
@Titou@sh.itjust.works avatar

They are ready to loose again

electric_nan ,

Lots of (understandable) generational anger towards Japan in China. I don't think Japan would fare that well in a new conflict. S Korea also may be held in check by the threat of North Korean artillery aimed at Seoul.

nuke Mod ,
@nuke@sh.itjust.works avatar

What is this tankie happy hour? All of you fucks came into the thread at the exact same time.

psmgx ,

2nd shift starting in Novosibirsk

fuckingkangaroos ,

Pretty typical for lemmy.ml

Estiar ,

Just that the Chinese never miss an opportunity to hate the Japanese. Especially when the meme brings up the PLA

Phegan ,

Gross.

Monstera ,

Scratch a lib and indeed a fascist bleed, imagine doing this meme with a nazi flag against russia

YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH ,

Yeah. This turns my stomach.

prettybunnys ,

Japan isn’t actually demilitarized, they have gundams under the mountains.

Everyone knows this.

Mikufan ,
@Mikufan@ani.social avatar

They also have a so called coastguard that is bigger than most countries navy.

NoIWontPickAName ,

Tbf I have a navy that is bigger than a lot of countries

Mikufan ,
@Mikufan@ani.social avatar

I mean... My navy is bigger than the navy of Switzerland and Austria together even.

HootinNHollerin ,

There is a sex lube called ‘Swiss Navy’ and it’s hilarious

Default_Defect ,
@Default_Defect@midwest.social avatar

I'm more worried about the potential of seeing Evangelion units.

SkyezOpen ,

Just cut the cable and kite for 5 minutes. Or psychologically traumatize the pilots. That's probably easiest honestly.

USSEthernet ,

Yea, we'd have bigger problems than China at that point lol

FiniteBanjo ,

Idk if the wording of "peace in the Taiwan straight" accurately describes an "intervention in armed conflict with full military force" but I'm all for it if it means even the mere notion helps prevent further escalation in the region.

Coasting0942 ,

It’s a nice meme but their population is turning geriatric, and they’re literally unable to pass any policies to make the birth rate go up.

sukhmel ,

population is turning geriatric

So… the Japanese will not only fight China, but that's going to be the very same Japanese that invaded China last time?

Hazzia ,

Can't tell if I'm excited for this prospect or disappointed that it's not going to be an army of anime cat femboys

vatniksplatnik ,

妈的

YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH ,

They are also super racist so they hate immigrants and don’t allow much immigration. Pretty fucking stupid way to run a country.

nuke Mod ,
@nuke@sh.itjust.works avatar

You get a timeout.

x4740N ,
@x4740N@lemmy.world avatar

I feel like your intentionally misrepresenting Japan

Every country has racist people and Japan's younger population are more open

Geobloke ,

So is China's...

njm1314 ,

Oh I don't like this

setsneedtofeed ,
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

Hey wait a minute, that isn't PLA07 Desert pattern. This shit post is a phony.

TranscendentalEmpire , (edited )

with frens

I think this needs an asterisk, pretty sure South Korea and the Philippines would be happy if Japan and China somehow simultaneously destroyed each other.

Edit: astrix to asterisk. Sorry, English isn't my first language. I mean it's been my primary for nearly 30 years, but it's still a bitch sometimes.

NegativeLookBehind ,
@NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world avatar

Asterisk 😘

Gsus4 , (edited )
@Gsus4@mander.xyz avatar

Asterix, like my boss used to say 😐

joneskind ,
@joneskind@lemmy.world avatar
Gsus4 ,
@Gsus4@mander.xyz avatar

bien sûr

FiniteBanjo ,

The average SK citizen doesn't really hate the Japanese, they just want their damn artifacts back. After all, it's difficult to say the largest instantaneous loss of life in human history wasn't punishment enough.

TranscendentalEmpire ,

The average SK citizen doesn't really hate the Japanese, they just want their damn artifacts back.

I think you'd be surprised, we've been hating the Japanese since the 1600s.

After all, it's difficult to say the largest instantaneous loss of life in human history wasn't punishment enough.

Up to 30k Koreans being used as slave labour were killed in the atomic blast.... We don't typically see that as squaring everything away, especially considering the modern Japanese government is made up of the children of war criminals who continue denying their parents many crimes against humanity.

xx3rawr ,

Philippines would not want to see Japan hurt. We are taught about the ugly history for most of our childhood but the general public is pro-Japan in the present. Pop culture aside, they funded projects and research without much debt traps and is curently much less evil than what China is doing these past decades.

TranscendentalEmpire ,

That's understandable, i guess you guys wouldn't have the historic animosity. Plus, they probably aren't still attempting to do historic revisionism on your entire country's existence.

Sanctus ,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

This shit is dark AF lmao

norbert ,
@norbert@kbin.social avatar

Yeah a lot of people might not be aware just how heinous Japans actions were in The Second Sino-Japanese War (the Chinese War of Resistance) in the lead-up to Asias involvement in WWII.

The Rape of Ninjing and Unit 731 are just two of the atrocities we know of.

Implying that Japan is now "back for more" and with frens this time is indeed pretty dark.

Mikufan ,
@Mikufan@ani.social avatar

You mean Japans Gamer moment that was even too much for the fucking SS?

frickineh ,

I think that's probably true - Japan has such a sanitized reputation now (which, frankly, isn't entirely deserved), and most people probably don't ever take a history class after high school, so a lot of people probably genuinely don't know how bad it was. I did a little over 3 years of an undergrad history major and never heard a word about it. The only reason I know anything about it is because my AP US History teacher in high school told a few of us about it after a class on WWII. I had nightmares about some of the pictures for a few nights. I see why they don't generally teach it to kids.

Titou ,
@Titou@sh.itjust.works avatar

Let me correct you, only otakus didn't known. Japan is known to be worst than germany in thoses old times

noxy ,
@noxy@yiffit.net avatar

I only recently learned about Unit 731 and I wish I hadn't. It's that fucking bad. Shit keeps me up at night if I allow myself to think about it.

OsrsNeedsF2P ,

Comfort Women are up there too. Japan was twisted af

Anticorp ,

Yeah a lot of people might not be aware just how heinous Japans actions were in The Second Sino-Japanese War

Or at a thousand other points in their history with China.

TankovayaDiviziya ,

Yeah a lot of people might not be aware just how heinous Japans actions were in The Second Sino-Japanese War

Unless if you're from Asia.

starman2112 ,
@starman2112@sh.itjust.works avatar

A group of humans so bad the nazis saved people from them

DragonTypeWyvern ,

The funny thing about John Rabe is that he was probably the only Nazi in any sort of power after The Night of the Long Knives to think they were still a socialist party, because he was off chilling in China and everyone forgot about him.

Cowbee ,

Let's not forget the entire colonization of Korea.

CptEnder ,

The Imperial flag too 👀

xx3rawr ,

It's actually their Navy flag that's still in use

Cowbee ,

Imagine if Germany still used the Nazi flag.

Duamerthrax ,

Their Navy flag predates the rise of State Shinto and Imperial Japan. It's not really the same thing

Cowbee ,

The swastika predates Nazi Germany, but is forever tarnished by it. In Asia, the flag of Imperial Japan is often seen as a symbol of fascism, Imperialism, and war crimes.

Duamerthrax ,

There are actually efforts to reclaim the swastika for cultural reasons predating the Nazis. It's not hard to tell a Nazi swastika from a Hindu one

Behind the Bastards did a two part episode on the history of it.

I know what the Rising Sun flag means in Asia. I'm just saying that they're not quite the same thing.

Cowbee ,

More power to them for trying to reclaim it! It was stolen anyways.

The difference with Imperial Japan is that the flag is still being used by the same group that committed war crimes. The Rising Sun can't simply be reclaimed, unlike the Swastika.

Duamerthrax ,

Point being is that there's a reasonable reason for the Japanese Naval flag to be in a Japanese Naval meme. If you want at reason to think the meme wasn't made in good faith, I'd be more worried about how the Japanese guy is holding a machete to the other guy's throat. That actually does conjure up ideas about WWII war crimes.

Socsa ,

Lol imagine being so edgy that NCD says "pump the brakes bruh."

Apparently this is more controversial than mommy milkers on an airplane.

ZombiFrancis ,

It is safe to assume the militarysexual status already comes with the territory.

Zehzin ,
@Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

Isn't Japan like super demilitarized?

BombOmOm , (edited )

Kinda. They do have fun stuff like a cruiser that has a flat deck and carries aircraft, not an aircraft carrier (!!!), a cruiser. And they have been rearming the last two years as it becomes clear their neighbors might need a stick, or at least the threat of one.

nxdefiant ,

Yes.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Maritime_Self-Defense_Force

This is all actually just props used in live-action anime.

Zehzin ,
@Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

I don't see any gundams. I'm calling fake.

benignintervention ,
sbv ,

The boats transform.

FiniteBanjo ,

They have a navy but it operates as an arm of the US Military, more or less. There are 23 US Military Bases in Japan with 53,973 troops or about a third of the USA's deployed troops worldwide.

Technus ,

In 2015, Japan amended its constitution to allow it to come to the defense of its allies.

A bit concerning, perhaps, but at least they're on our side this time.

NoIWontPickAName ,

The real question is who changed, them or us?

Anticorp ,

Both.

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