555_1 ,

You can have your 10 when I get my 7

JustCopyingOthers ,

I had an extremely religious teacher in secondary school. He had a habit of threatening other staff, tradesmen, drivers in front of his pupils with "I know taekwando", then relising what he'd just done and repenting/distracting with "let us pray". One morning we came into the classroom to find him in a huddle with his union rep. Turned out he'd spent the night in jail after being arrested affray (fighting).

For almost all religious people their faith provides guidance and comfort, but you don't want to encourage the nuts.

555_1 ,

guidance and comfort

You mean justification.

Snazz ,

I feel like faith provides a disproportionate of comfort compared to guidance. People take the parts of religion they agree with, and discard the rest. I actually think this is good practice, but it becomes an issue when they use the affirmation of the broader religion to justify their actions.

A moral compass is something you have to find for yourself, and acknowledge that it is not backed up or justified by any other entity than yourself.

For me, I’ve found a good starting point is the TST tenets. Compared to the 10 commandments, they are much more broad. I can use them as a lens to analyze a variety of different situations and organize my thoughts and feelings.

But that doesn’t mean that I use TST to justify my actions, the tenets are my tools of introspection. Heck, the 7th tenet even acknowledges that the tenets are only guiding principles and seems to encourage finding your own morals.

TheBraveSirRobbin ,

Is the satanic temple something people just know when they see TST? Are their tenets common knowledge?

Maybe I'm living under a rock here, but your comment is hard to decipher without any links or explanation. Yes I found out what you were talking about by googling it, but your comment doesn't help much if people need to Google it. 9 times out of 10 people just ignore it and move past it.

kryptonianCodeMonkey ,

Beside the idiocy of thinking that the mere displaying of the Ten Commandments automatically makes the property in question somehow more righteous, more moral, or just generally safer for children... you do know that the Ten Commandments, notably and infamously, do not have any commandment forbidding rape OR pedophilia. And, in fact, the Bible seems to be generally fine with those things at least under certain situations, so...

Honestly, probably helps explain all that child raping going on in churches. Nobody wrote down that they couldn't.

pyre ,

that's one hell of a parallel universe airbud scene

"it says a man shall not lie with a man... doesn't say anything about boys"

Viking_Hippie ,

You've put the concept Horny Airbud into my brain and I would like to return it, please.

datavoid ,

I didn't even know airbud could talk

madcaesar ,

Yup, the Bible btw loves rape. There are tons of stories about rape in there... And they don't all end with "that's why you shouldn't rape".

kryptonianCodeMonkey ,

There's fucking instructions on how to getcha a good rape victim!

Numbers 17-18 (paraphrased):

"1.Kill all the men and boys. 2. Kill all the women who has had sex with a man. 3. Kidnap the remaining women and girls that are still virgins, and take them for yourselves as wives."

Judges 21:20-23 (again, paraphrased):

"Go stalk and hide in the places where young women do their traditional dances. When they come out to dance, catch and kidnap one for yourself and take her as your wife. When their male family members protest, tell them that the men should actually be helping you to steal their daughters and sisters because you didn't didnt manage to get any in the war, so you need these girls. Tell them it's fine, they don't have to be guilty, because they didn't actually offer them the girls themselves.

And they did that, kidnapped the young women, and returned home with them."

For context on this one, there was a place that most isrealites deemed too sinful to exist, like Sodom, so they decided to do a genocide on it. But one tribe refused to do said genocide, and stood against the rest of the tribes. All of that tribe were then killed except 600 men by the rest of the Isrealites.

But that left those 600 men without wives, and they were still the chosen people. So, while the rest of Isreal swore to never let their daughters marry someone from that tribe, they still decided to help get them replacement wives.... with another genocide. When another tribe failed to join their war coalition, they went and killed everyone there except the virgin girls, around 400 of them. Then gave the wifeless tribe the above instructions.

What makes this story extra shitty is the entire reason for the original genocide was because one group of men raped and murdered one woman. While that it abhorrent, they then corrected this crime with at least 400 rapes and tens of thousands of murders. Yaaaaay. Much better. Thanks, The Bible!

That shit is in the fucking Bible. Read those passages for the direct translations without my paraphrasing, if you like. It doesn't get any better.

FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

Somebody should probably investigate this guy for raping kids.

Just saying,

kryptonianCodeMonkey , (edited )

"I know if I carry around my pocket ten commandments at all times, it stops me from sticking my old sweaty semi-hard cock into every sweet virgin 10 year old butthole I can get my hands on. So you should display them everywhere I may be in contact with kids, just in case I misplace my wallet." - This Guy, Probably

Metype ,
@Metype@lemmy.world avatar

Such a fucking vile thing to read while starting my morning

kryptonianCodeMonkey ,

Sorry about that. It was vile to write, too. But it illustrates how vile someone has to be to think that the only thing stopping child rape is reminding them that "it's against the rules", which.... it's also not against their rules, either. No commandment says anything at all about rape or pedophilia, which is just wild. But don't worry, they got the one about not making any idols/"graven images", so... the day is saved. In fact, both rape and pedophilia are often completely condoned in the Bible, at least under certain circumstances. So, yeah, I don't get this guys logic even a little.

pyre ,

i bet he has very specific types of media on his drives.

FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

I feel sorry for the intern that has to document that.

Samvega ,

"Isn't it convenient how my religion is all about how great I am and how rich I should be. I'm pretty sure that's exactly what Jesus intended. No, wait... I don't care!!!"

Lemminary ,

Makes sense. It has definitively stopped child abuse in churches! Oh, wait.

circuitfarmer ,
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Just look at the Catholics!

Lost_My_Mind ,

......how? Most of the time when they say fucked up dumb shit, I can follow the logic to point out why it's flawed logic.

This logic is so dumb I don't even get how they expect it to work.

FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

Especially because “don’t rape” and “don’t have sex with kids” aren’t even part of the commandments.

In fact there’s other passages that explicitly say, “fuck their daughters after killing the rest of their family”.

(And people wonder why these things happen.)

TheBigBrother ,

Yeah sure because rapists are people who take religion so seriously.

Lemminary ,

When they do they're called priests.

jordanlund ,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Because that works so well in Churches? 🤔

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