US police killed a record number of people in 2023 ( thehill.com )

  • In 2023, police in the U.S. Killed over 1,300 people, marking a steady increase in police killings, as reported by Mapping Police Violence.
  • There were only 14 days without a police killing, and on average, a person was killed by law enforcement every 6.6 hours.
  • While the number of people killed by gunfire and officers killed in the line of duty declined, this data highlights the need for significant changes in policing in the country.
Semi-Hemi-Demigod ,
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USA! USA! USA!

aniki ,

officers killed in the line of duty declined

In other words -- violence continues to drop while the pigs get more and more violent.

rivermonster OP ,

https://www.facilities.udel.edu/safety/4689/

Cops are 22nd most dangerous career in America. They don't even cut it in the TOP 20. This according to the University of Delaware. Good thing we LITERALLY give them military hardware and equipment to use on the citizens.

aniki ,
  1. Logging workers
  2. Aircraft pilots and flight engineers
  3. Derrick operators in oil, gas, and mining
  4. Roofers
  5. Garbage collectors
  6. Ironworkers
  7. Delivery drivers
  8. Farmers
  9. Firefighting supervisors
  10. Power linemen
  11. Agricultural workers
  12. Crossing guards
  13. Crane operators
  14. Construction helpers
  15. Landscaping supervisors
  16. Highway maintenance workers
  17. Cement masons
  18. Small engine mechanics
  19. Supervisors of mechanics
  20. Heavy vehicle mechanics
  21. Grounds maintenance workers
  22. Police officers
  23. Maintenance workers
  24. Construction workers
  25. Mining machine operators
rivermonster OP ,

And police are tied with grounds maintenance, and maintenance workers. But only one of the three gets military hardware. ><

Semi-Hemi-Demigod ,
@Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social avatar

Imagine if a janitor had a Bradley with a mop on the front

aniki ,

hold on -- this is perfect for chatgpt and dalle

aniki ,

https://lemm.ee/pictrs/image/2f331b24-1812-4c4d-ba39-b95aa9105bb1.jpeg
https://lemm.ee/pictrs/image/67c29098-ef69-4c02-a3cc-2284180edae4.jpeg
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Sagifurius ,

I've read often that if you account for automotive accidents, they drop out of the top 500, and out of the top 100 if you start including dangerous niche jobs.

dual_sport_dork ,
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Delivery drivers

Confirm. Before the advent of the current doordash-uber-postmates fiasco, I worked delivery for four different restaurants. I went to neighborhoods where cops eating at our restaurant(s) flat out told me they won't go. With a pocket full of cash, no backup, in my regular old not bulletproof personal vehicle.

I was strapped as fuck, of course, but still.

Cops are pussies.

RememberTheApollo_ ,

18 - small engine mechanics?

Why on earth are they dying from their job?

Fester ,

Imagine you’re working on a small engine, and then out of nowhere a black woman exists, asleep in her bed, and you didn’t have a gun to shoot her with. Bam, you’re dead.

JayDee ,

There's probably not as many small engine mechanics out there so that'll accentuate a smaller number of injuries and deaths.

but also, as a small engine mechanic you're working with an explosive device. It's controlled explosion, but it's been designed to be compact and lightweight while still providing a decent power output. I imagine that if anything goes wrong, that thing turns into an IED pretty quick.

Not to mention that some small engines use fancy fuel that can fuck you up pretty quick, and all engines are prone to catching fire.

jak ,

They make trips to service boat engines, and transportation accidents and falls are the most common killer here. My brain supplied an additional theory when it mentioned lawnmower repair, but hopefully there’s a foolproof way to temporarily disable the blades, no matter how old or damaged the lawnmower

CADmonkey ,

hopefully there’s a foolproof way to temporarily disable the blades,

Unplug the spark plug and tuck the wire out of the way.

jak ,

Can you do that without going near the blades?

CADmonkey ,

Yes. You can do that without even turning the lawnmower over.

jak ,

Thank you so much, that’s a relief.

AngryCommieKender ,

Lawnmower Man wasn't an historical document.

Reverendender ,
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We broke the record!! USA!!! USA!!!

(I am crying in the inside)

rivermonster OP ,

I feel you, and don't have a good coping mechanism for this one, plus it's hard as shit to not have an emotional take on it, hence the difference of the title in my community. https://lemmy.world/post/10842873

Reverendender ,
@Reverendender@sh.itjust.works avatar

I’m sure it would be terribly difficult, but my first thought is that we need federal oversight of law enforcement.

rivermonster OP ,

Even legitimately tracking law enforcement federally is difficult and half ass'd, and always opposed by some of the worst criminals in our country the Police Unions (they misspell "organized crime ring" as "union"). There's always bullshit like "voluntary compliance", and failure to follow up on no compliance at all, it's god-damed ridiculous.

rivermonster OP ,

Also this:

https://archive.ph/Oy144

Reverendender ,
@Reverendender@sh.itjust.works avatar

This is like asking the oil companies to pinky swear they are doing right by the environment.

breadsmasher ,
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Heres some data for the UK to compare.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/319287/deaths-during-or-following-police-contact-causes-england-and-wales/

America has some serious problems


| Characteristic | Road traffic fatalities | Fatal shootings | Deaths in or following police custody | Apparent suicides following custody | Other deaths during or following police contact\* |
| -------------- | ----------------------- | --------------- | ------------------------------------- | ----------------------------------- | ------------------------------------------------- |
| 2010/11        | 26                      | 2               | 21                                    | 46                                  | 57                                                |
| 2011/12        | 19                      | 2               | 15                                    | 39                                  | 47                                                |
| 2012/13        | 31                      | 0               | 15                                    | 65                                  | 22                                                |
| 2013/14        | 12                      | 0               | 11                                    | 70                                  | 44                                                |
| 2014/15        | 14                      | 1               | 18                                    | 71                                  | 43                                                |
| 2015/16        | 21                      | 3               | 14                                    | 61                                  | 106                                               |
| 2016/17        | 32                      | 6               | 14                                    | 56                                  | 131                                               |
| 2017/18        | 29                      | 4               | 23                                    | 57                                  | 177                                               |
| 2018/19        | 42                      | 3               | 17                                    | 63                                  | 156                                               |
| 2019/20        | 24                      | 3               | 18                                    | 54                                  | 107                                               |
| 2020/21        | 25                      | 1               | 19                                    | 54                                  | 92                                                |
| 2021/22        | 40                      | 2               | 11                                    | 57                                  | 111                                               |
| 2022/23        | 28                      | 3               | 23                                    | 52                                  | 90                                                |
Omegamanthethird ,
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So, if I'm reading this right, the US had 6.6 times more fatalities by police (1,300 vs 196), with only 5 times more population (332 million vs 67 million).

Population equalized, 1,300 US vs 980 UK. Unless I'm reading this wrong.

breadsmasher ,
@breadsmasher@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t have the info to clarify this either way, but the data Ive shared isn’t only “directly killed by police action” but includes suicide and other deaths related to police contact but not necessarily directly caused by police

e. interpreting the US statistics as “directly killed by police, with their hands” then I would count only “fatal shootings” and possibly “deaths in and following police custody”.

Here’s another slice of UK people killed by shootings https://www.statista.com/statistics/319246/police-fatal-shootings-england-wales/

2023 there were 3 police shootings resulting in death

In USA there were 1153 fatal shootings by police

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

Omegamanthethird ,
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There's an "other" category for the UK link. Since "in police custody" seems to be for unattributed deaths, I'm assuming "other" is for attributed murder that isn't shootings.

Magikjak ,

This source is including many more causes of death not included in the US number. The average annual direct killings by the US police is 1096 (33.1 per 10 million), while the UK is 3 (0.5 per 10 million), about 66 times worse per capita.

Omegamanthethird ,
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It seems like that's just shootings. I'm really curious what the "other" category is for the UK. That seems like that might be direct killings that aren't shootings. That would inflate the number to 93.

But even if all of the others are murders (since unattributed deaths in custody is its own category), that would still make the US police 3 times as likely to murder you.

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