ARE TANKIES CONSPIRING TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A BAD TIME ON LEMMY.ML?

!asklemmy - ARE YOU A TANKIE? - informal poll results ~

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A ridiculous question. “Tankie” isn’t a term anyone self-identifies with, it’s mostly a term used by liberals to hurl at anyone to the left of them or anyone who agrees with western foreign policy. The survey results will be as meaningless as the term “tankie” itself.

Image description: A5 page, with various pie charts and text, indicating the results of an informal poll from lemmy.ml, full image text in spoiler

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ARE TANKIES TAKING CONSPIRING TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A BAD TIME ON LEMMY.ML ??

HEXBEAR.NET

DOES THE WORK FOR YOU!!

WE ASKED !asklemmy ARE YOU A TANKIE?

First stack of pie charts shows the yes / no split, highlights that the lemmy.ml yes responses made up less than half of the yes votes, hexbear.net and lemmygrad.ml only made up a small portion, some hexbear-ians even vote no
second and third pie charts show the yes votes, and no votes by instance respectively
third stacked pie chart shows the yes / no split by instance, overlay-ed with the total yes / no votes

only top level comments were counted
tankies are closer than they appear
Deeply unserious
NDTS

full results / data
COUNTA of yes
@lemmy.ml = 10
@lemmygrad.ml = 5
@lemmy.world = 3
@lemmy.zip = 1
@hexbear.net = 3
@lemmy.sdf.org = 1
@lemmy.one = 1
Grand Total  = 24

COUNTA of no
@lemmy.ml = 2
@lemm.ee = 2
@lemmy.world = 8
@lemmy.blahaj.zone = 1
@reddthat.com = 1
@ttrpg.network = 1
@hexbear.net = 4
@lemmy.jhjacobs.nl = 1
Grand Total = 20

taken from archived post https://archive.md/AAY1L

this was fun, thanks for the polling idea, Kristina (I spent too long on these charts because yours looked so spiffy, I hope you specifically are impressed lol), solidarity cleaning that data up, and general reminder people only half read anything before launching into a diatribe

tl:dr yes, tankies are totally conspiring to make sure you have a bad time on lemmy.ml

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Image description: A5 page, with various pie charts and text, indicating the results of an informal poll from lemmy.ml, full image text in spoiler
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geography082 ,

Hexbear is how all communities should be in Lemmy .

yogthos ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar
Sgt_choke_n_stroke ,

The "everyone's a tankie who disagrees with me" I'm convinced is a new meme.

Cowbee ,

That's what happens when you defederate from pro-Marxist instances. Zionists and anti-Communists start joining this anti-Marxist space and you have a whole new Red Scare on your hands.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Shitlibs gonna shitlib

Tankies gonna tank

davel ,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

Reporter: [REDACTED]
Reason: Spam or Abuse

Reporter is having a bad time on lemmy.ml, what more evidence do you need?

Cowbee ,

That's just sad, haha.

davel ,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar
Grayox ,
@Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

More pixels plz

myself ,

Actually can't tell if this was made by a tankie or a sane person and I love it

Dippy ,
@Dippy@beehaw.org avatar

I've never seen a set of graphs with so few labels for everything it was showing

Jean_le_Flambeur ,

Are tankies conspiring to repeat the "tankie is a meaningless term" mantra till someone believes them?

Cowbee ,

I've seen Anarchists called "tankie" so at this point it either needs to be entirely redefined or done away with. Even suggesting people to read Marx can get you called a tankie these days.

Jean_le_Flambeur ,

So if I call a car a giraffe the word giraffe looses its meaning and becomes invalid?

Misusage of terms doesn't cancel out the concept these words refer to lul

If it would in would just call my bake rolls fascists, so the fascists go away

Cowbee ,

What is a "tankie?" Every person gives a different definition. It's like "woke."

MiraculousMM ,
@MiraculousMM@hexbear.net avatar

What is your definition of a tankie

Jean_le_Flambeur ,

Tankie: Someone who is authoritarian to a degree he sees using the army (tanks) against the own civilian population as a valid and legitimate action.
Sometimes used as slur by people against those measures (or generally highly authoritarian top down approaches of state theory) or as (positive) self reference by people in favor of such measures (or generally highly authoritarian top down approaches of state theory)

linkhidalgogato ,

u can no more define tankie than you can define woke.

Jean_le_Flambeur ,

Woke: from civil right movement, someone who is weary of loyalty to the state and instead examines society/policy/politics himself. - in modern times used as slur against progressive and ecological conscious people by right wing people.

Tankie: Someone who is authoritarian to a degree he sees using the army (tanks) against the own civilian population as a valid and legitimate action.
Sometimes used as slur by people against those measures (or generally highly authoritarian top down approaches of state theory) or as (positive) self reference by people in favor of such measures (or generally highly authoritarian top down approaches of state theory)

Don't know what your problem is defining both.

EDIT: Not to be confused with "I know exactly who a tankie is and who isn't - my definition is 100% correct" or even "there are exact boundaries and conditions to what a tankie is"

Its like "peace", " progressive", "right-wing", different people will give you different definitions, my point is, that there is a concept to which the word refers and different interpretations/ambiguities don't render the term useless simply by existing.

TRexBear ,

Tankie: Someone who is authoritarian to a degree he sees using the army (tanks) against the own civilian population as a valid and legitimate action.

Serious question; does this include for example supporters of Israel today? Would someone who supported US action in Vietnam or Iraq or Afghanistan be a tankie?

edit: I just noticed "own civilian population" in your comment? Is the implication that you're not a tankie if you're only murdering innocent foreigners? Ironically the term 'tankie' was coined when Khrushchev sent soviet tanks to Hungary so were the original tankies not actually tankies?

theywilleatthestars ,

Tankies broke into my house and moved all my furniture half an inch to the left

eldavi ,

okay Ivan; go back to the gulag before putin puts you there. lol

Cowbee ,

All in all, "Tankie" is just the modern version of "Pinko!" I've seen Anarchists called Tankies, every manner of Marxists, non-Marxist Socialists, and more. It truly lost all of its meaning and is just Lemmy's Red Scare.

A huge portion of that comes from Lemmy.world, which is the largest instance to defederate intentionally from Hexbear and Grad, which has the presumably unintended effect of making Zionists and other far-right wingers feel comfortable in an Anticommunist instance.

commiewithoutorgans ,
@commiewithoutorgans@hexbear.net avatar

Unintended may be somewhat true, in that nobody explicitly had that as a conscious reason, but it was an obvious result that they could've known beforehand. So I don't think it's useful at all to call it unintended. Just an easily understood and expected side effect

Cowbee ,

That's a fair enough critique. They definitely should have known what would happen, but this is more for the new users who came after defederation.

velox_vulnus ,
@velox_vulnus@lemmy.ml avatar

lemmy.world has comments in their community, where they call for the nuking of developing countries, when they read news of social injustice. By that logic, their 'civilized' country should be nuked thrice, because cartoonishly evil, rich scumbags like Jeffrey Epstein and their associates still have a free pass for raping minors in their creepy sex-dungeons.

Cowbee ,

Yep, it's disgusting to see.

Nakoichi ,
@Nakoichi@hexbear.net avatar

And apparently discuss.tchncs.de

Cowbee ,

What's their history?

Tankiedesantski ,

I'm doing my part im-doing-my-part

MrScottyTay ,

I've only ever seen people complain about them tangentially. Guess I'm not following the communities they usually pop up in

Cowbee ,

Lemmy is going through an Anticommunist Red Scare right now, particularly on Lemmy.world.

10_0 ,

Can't imagine why

Nakoichi ,
@Nakoichi@hexbear.net avatar

The fact that Hexbear polled more no than yes is so fuckin funny to me.

Dirk ,
@Dirk@lemmy.ml avatar

Why does that instance still exist? Wow.

Cowbee ,

Why would it not?

Dirk ,
@Dirk@lemmy.ml avatar

I've never seen any good content coming from that instance. Only political bullshit and fighting.

Cowbee ,

It is a Left-unity server, with Marxists and Anarchists alike. It is going to be political by nature of the instance.

If you don't care for politics, the Games community is very pleasant IMO, and if you're trans, traa is hosted over there and it's a very active community. Hexbear is largely self-contained and self-sufficient, there's more than just politics.

manuallybreathing OP ,

hexbear is officially anti tankie, I don't make the rules. RIP

CyberSyndicalist ,
@CyberSyndicalist@hexbear.net avatar

Fuck tankies, Khrushchev should have nuked Hungary

vger ,
@vger@lemmy.ml avatar

lemmy.dbzer0.com:

This instance currently allows new community creation, however the following subjects are explicitly not allowed as communities.

  • No Tankie shit.
manuallybreathing OP ,

People who are downvoting this dont like to have fun

PotatoesFall ,

Some of these graphs are just very hard to read even with the explanation another user gave

TRexBear ,

skill issue

Tja ,

I downvoted because after staring at it for 15 seconds I still had no idea what data it tried to transmit or what the message was. It's just a bad infographic.

davel ,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

Sir, madam, or enby, this is a c/memes.

Kyatto ,
@Kyatto@leminal.space avatar

you must be one of them tankies /s

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