DerpyPlayz18 ,
@DerpyPlayz18@lemm.ee avatar

Fedora KDE spin.
One of the easiest to use distros without all of the annoyances of Ubuntu (e.g. snaps).

Fint0034 ,
@Fint0034@lemmy.ml avatar

ArcoLinuxB KDE.

I've learned from Brodie's video that Ubuntu upload schedule is basically slightly different gnome's schedule. So, KDE with rolling releases is what I think is best.

Though IIRC the scheduling of plasma 6 onward will follow gnome's 6 month period to synchronize with bimonthly releases of distros that does it.

I'll need some input on this

FangedWyvern42 ,
@FangedWyvern42@lemmy.world avatar

Kubuntu, KDE neon, Debian with KDE.

Adanisi ,
@Adanisi@lemmy.zip avatar

Debian

Fint0034 ,
@Fint0034@lemmy.ml avatar

stable or unstable

Adanisi ,
@Adanisi@lemmy.zip avatar

I use stable but if you need more up to date software not in backports unstable would be better suited. Neither are really "unstable".

maness300 ,

Manjaro.

Adanisi ,
@Adanisi@lemmy.zip avatar

"Stable", really? Delaying packages isn't stable, in fact it can break AUR packages.

maness300 ,

I never had an issue and I've been using Manjaro exclusively for 3+ years.

I think Arch has had issues that Manjaro was able to avoid in the meantime because Manjaro doesn't push updates as quickly as Arch.

samalves ,

Debian 12 stable with KDE is smooth sailing

Dehydrated ,

KDE Neon is pretty nice, it's probably my favorite KDE-based distro.

You can also check out:

  • Fedora KDE
  • openSUSE
  • Kubuntu
IrritableOcelot ,

You're going to get a million answers, mostly people saying to use which distro they're currently using. In my experience, KDE works just fine on any distro that allows you to install it out of the box, so I would choose based on other attributes of the distro, such as:

  • Package manager: which are you used to?
  • Update cycle: KDE 6 is out soon, so you want something which updates often enough to get it fairly quickly (at least semiannual).
  • Stability: unless you want to have to manually maintain your system and learn how it works, avoid arch and arch-based distros. I have run it, its fine, but it's not "normie", and unless you really know what you're doing, daily driving it can be stressful. Manjaro has the same issues, but takes away some ability of the user to fix them.

For instance, I personally like Debian and apt, but I would not recommend base Debian right now, since KDE 6 is about to come out and Debian will take a loooong time to get it.
I have not personally used Kubuntu, but if it gets rid of any the bloat canonical has been adding to Ubuntu lately, it sounds pretty good to me.

comicallycluttered ,

Yeah, Kubuntu's fine. It has some of the Snap stuff, but the "minimal install" greatly strips down unnecessary bullshit to the point where I even find vanilla Debian Plasma to be more bloated in comparison.

I used Kubuntu for most of my time on Linux before switching to Debian. Still fully recommend it as a basically "plug and play" distro with a quick installer that works OOTB.

There's also a KDE-specific backports PPA which gets you new Plasma and Qt stuff fairly quickly, but that works best on regular releases rather than LTS releases. (The only issue is that, because it uses Launchpad, the Plasma updates can be super fucking slow to download, regardless of your network speed).

Then again, if someone's going to be using LTS versions only, there's not really that much of a difference between it and Debian Stable in terms of DE updates.

tsonfeir ,
@tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

[Thread, post or comment was deleted by the author]

  • Loading...
  • jameskirk ,
    @jameskirk@startrek.website avatar

    Budgie is very much not KDE.

    cmgvd3lw ,

    Endeavour OS with KDE

    drndramrndra ,

    stable

    without issues

    Arch

    chillsmeit ,

    Normie and Arch based don't fit together in the same sentence tbh

    camr_on ,
    @camr_on@lemmy.world avatar

    I've had an excellent experience with endeavor OS, which can install KDE as well as some other DEs from the installation options. It's based on arch

    Teon ,
    @Teon@kbin.social avatar

    I highly recommend Kubuntu. I don't use any snaps though. And I always install the LTS version. Been using it for over a dozen years.

    cevn ,

    Same. I just keep my head down when the distro wars start, but it’s so easy to fix, never wiped it for like at least 10 years.

    Atemu ,
    @Atemu@lemmy.ml avatar

    I don't use any snaps though.

    Oh sweet summer child...

    Bombastic ,

    MX Linux with KDE?

    If you have an AMD machine it even has a "advanced hardware system" iso for high end pcs

    mitram2 ,

    You have to reinstall mxlinux every time a new debian version comes out. Not really "normie" IMHO.

    Successful_Try543 ,

    Do you really have to reinstall from scratch or is it sufficient to update the sources.list to the new Debian release and perform dist-upgrade like for Debian?

    mitram2 ,

    I read their documentation yesterday, and it strongly advised a complete reinstall. While they do have a tool that eases the process of storing your setup and then recovering it on top of a new install, it's still significantly more complicated than just 'sudo apt upgrade'.

    Guenther_Amanita , (edited )

    Fedora Kinoite, specifically the version from universal-blue.org.

    It comes with all codecs (and even baked in Nvidia-driver if you want!).

    Why that and not the normal (mutable) Fedora Workstation KDE spin?

    • Very simple by default. You basically only "own" your home directory, the rest is indestructible and taken care of.
    • Has less bugs due to better reproducibility, and if something major should break, you can easily roll back without any waiting time (as opposed to Tumbleweed)
    • And you can even rebase to Bazzite, a gaming distro, that's based on the uBlue KDE version, or any other spin it you want cleanly
    Pantherina ,

    This. Or, nowadays secureblue Kinoite!

    Its a hardened Variant of ublue kinoitr, but I tested it and especially using the "userns" variants, a lot works

    • flatpak
    • virtual machines
    • fingerprint sensor

    "userns" means user namespaces, a technology used by browsers, flatpak and Podman/Docker/Toolbox/Distrobox to create Sandboxes, isolating processes. It is used by default on Fedora, so these variants are pretty much like regular Fedora.

    Dont think a secure Distro is user-unfriendly. It works pretty normal, but is simply way more secure.

    If you want to use Firefox or Torbrowser, install their binaries.

    https://github.com/trytomakeyouprivate/Recommended-Flatpak-Apps

    Cwilliams ,

    Fedora Kinoite is the first time that I felt at home (besides Arch). It feels so stable and I never have to mess with it. KDE is also at the point now where it feels genuinely better than Windows or Mac

    ReCursing ,
    @ReCursing@kbin.social avatar

    I'm using Manjaro because SuSE Tubleweed didn't want to install that day. People like to hate on Manjaro but I honestly don't know why - the defaults are fine and I very rarely have issues despite using software from the AUR

    null ,
    @null@slrpnk.net avatar
    ReCursing ,
    @ReCursing@kbin.social avatar

    It has been 442d 15h 07m 53s since Manjaro !$%&?*# up.

    So a year and a half? That's not all that bad really. And that time it was a (admittedly bloody stupid) cock up involving the SSL certificate of their website not of the distro itself

    null ,
    @null@slrpnk.net avatar

    Sure, maybe they're better now, but this long list is why the reputation stuck.

    That and EndeavourOS exists

    maness300 ,

    I don't have any issues with the complaints often mentioned about Manjaro.

    Linux Mint, on the other hand, once got hacked and hosted malware on their website :(

    But I'm sure you're as quick to tell people about that as you are to tell people about Manjaro.

    null ,
    @null@slrpnk.net avatar

    But I'm sure you're as quick to tell people about that as you are to tell people about Manjaro.

    Why would I tell people about something I've never heard of before? Go shove your snide attitude up your ass.

    Also pretty disingenuous to compare a single incident of being hacked with a pattern of sloppiness and negligence.

    maness300 ,

    Well, you've heard about it now so I fully expect you to take up the crusade like you have against manjaro, unless you're biased/tribalist.

    Also pretty disingenuous to compare a single incident of being hacked with a pattern of sloppiness and negligence.

    No it's not, lol. Being infected with malware is worse than anything the Manjaro team has done. If you disagree, then you're just not worth taking seriously.

    Let's be honest though, you're not worth taking seriously because you just do what you think will make you look good in front of your peers.

    null ,
    @null@slrpnk.net avatar

    If you thinking getting hacked once is comparable to a multi-year pattern of being clearly negligent and sloppy, then there's not much hope for you.

    maness300 ,

    One is significantly worse than the other. Getting hacked is significantly worse than anything the Manjaro team did. My point is that what happened to Linux Mint was worse than anything that happened to Manjaro, but people like you never get up in arms about it.

    You might want to brush up on your reading comprehension if this is difficult for you to understand.

    null ,
    @null@slrpnk.net avatar

    Getting hacked is something that can happen to anyone. Being negligent to the point of ddosing the AUR multiple times is isn't.

    You can't seriously be this obtuse.

    maness300 ,

    Lol. It's funny that you're actually sitting here defending neglecting security.

    Thanks for cementing in my mind that you, and people like you, are not worth taking seriously.

    Either you're a troll or just out of touch with reality.

    Goodbye.

    null ,
    @null@slrpnk.net avatar

    Lol. It's funny that you're actually sitting here defending neglecting security.

    Oh wait, maybe you can actually be this obtuse.

    Good luck out there. Must be difficult for someone like you.

    Manjaro fanboys are truly a special breed.

    ReCursing ,
    @ReCursing@kbin.social avatar

    Or maybe you just have a weird bee in your bonnet about something that's not even really a problem as evidenced from your own numbers

    null ,
    @null@slrpnk.net avatar

    I simply showed why Manjaro has that reputation.

    ReCursing ,
    @ReCursing@kbin.social avatar

    You also unwittingly showed why it doesn't deserve it

    null ,
    @null@slrpnk.net avatar

    Why? Because after a series of negligent incidents spanning multiple years, a couple of which impacted the AUR for everyone they've gone a year and a bit without another major incident?

    Again, EndeavourOS exists -- all Manjaro does for you is hold back packages making things unstable.

    ReCursing ,
    @ReCursing@kbin.social avatar

    Debian and Slackware and Arch and Ubuntu also exist, they're also not relevant

    null ,
    @null@slrpnk.net avatar

    Debian, Slackware, and Ubuntu are not Arch-based, so of course they're not relevant.

    Obviously Arch is relevant, but it's more difficult to install without a GUI installer. Enter EndeavourOS.

    If you're not using Manjaro to get "Arch with a graphical installer" then... what are you using it for?

    ReCursing ,
    @ReCursing@kbin.social avatar

    I'm using it as a linux distro, which I then use to do things on my computer that I actually want to do like work and play games and browse the internet! I used the installer once and I seem to recall it was fine (though I'm not keen on the tepid green they chose as a colour scheme).

    What do you use your computer for?

    null ,
    @null@slrpnk.net avatar

    I'm obviously not asking what you do on a computer.

    Did Manjaro magically install itself on your computer one day? Or did you choose it from a selection of dozens of other distributions that can do everything you described above?

    ReCursing ,
    @ReCursing@kbin.social avatar

    I chose it because, as I said, Manjaro and SuSE Tumbleweed were the two KDE-focused rolling release distros of which I was aware (not KDE as an afterthought like Fedora or Kubuntu) , and SuSE didn't want to install that day. I'm honestly not sure why we're even still having this argument!

    null ,
    @null@slrpnk.net avatar

    So then by now you should have a better understanding of why Manjaro has a bad reputation, and why EndeavourOS is a better recommendation.

    Which was the point of this "argument" in the first place.

    ReCursing ,
    @ReCursing@kbin.social avatar

    Not really, no. You've told me why you think Manjaro is bad, but all you've told me about Endeavour is that it's a) better than Manajro for unspecified reasons, and b) it;s Arch with a nicer installer yet somehow doesn't have any of the problems you accuse Manjaro of, despite you claiming (for again unspecified reasons) that is the prime reason for choosing Manjaro as well

    null , (edited )
    @null@slrpnk.net avatar

    I actually have mentioned all that, but let me summarize it for you:

    Both are Arch-based, but have an easy to use graphical installer.

    Manjaro holds back packages for 2 weeks from the Arch repos. That causes stability and security issues. The maintainers have also demonstrated a clear pattern of negligence that impacts the whole Arch ecosystem.

    EndeavourOS does not hold back packages. They also haven't broken the AUR twice.

    That's it. Should be pretty clear why EndeavourOS is the better recommendation.

    ReCursing ,
    @ReCursing@kbin.social avatar

    Again you seem to think the only point of Manajro or Endeavour are to make it easier to install Arch. Plus you have offered no reason to use Endeavour over Arch

    Please note I have not noticed stability or security issues to a greater degree than I have on any other distro that isn't ultra-stable (e.g. Debian Stable)

    null ,
    @null@slrpnk.net avatar

    Again you seem to think the only point of Manajro or Endeavour are to make it easier to install Arch.

    It is.

    Plus you have offered no reason to use Endeavour over Arch

    Yes I did -- it has a GUI installer. That's the only reason.

    Please note I have not noticed stability or security issues to a greater degree than I have on any other distro that isn't ultra-stable (e.g. Debian Stable)

    Good for you?

    ReCursing ,
    @ReCursing@kbin.social avatar

    Again you seem to think the only point of Manajro or Endeavour are to make it easier to install Arch.

    It is.

    Right, I'm done. I can't be bothered to argue with this level of absolute mind-numbing stupidity any more. Please never say anything to anyone ever again.

    null ,
    @null@slrpnk.net avatar

    Bahahaha.

    Manjaro fanboys really are something else.

    What else would they possibly be for if not installing Arch with a GUI?

    ReCursing ,
    @ReCursing@kbin.social avatar

    Also I've just actually looked at EndeavourOS' website and it says very clearly front and centre that it's focused on the terminal, which is entirely not what OP was even asking for. It might be a fine distro, I don't know, I've never used it or checked how many years it is since they cocked up, but it doesn't present itself as a KDE focused distro which is what OP (and I) want!

    maness300 ,

    I keep saying that's what turns me off from endeavor as a Manjaro user.

    That, and it seems like all the people suggesting it don't really have their minds grounded in reality.

    A lot of them legitimately believe Arch is a sufficient replacement for Manjaro, and that just tells me they aren't worth taking seriously.

    There's a lot of 🧩 in the FOSS space, and I think we should acknowledge it for what it is instead of putting it on a pedestal.

    null ,
    @null@slrpnk.net avatar

    That must be why it ships with a GUI installer, that can install any of the popular DEs and WMs...

  • All
  • Subscribed
  • Moderated
  • Favorites
  • random
  • linux@lemmy.ml
  • test
  • worldmews
  • mews
  • All magazines