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toaster , in Floating Island Garden
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What a great idea! I'm curious to see how this goes. Would you be open to cross-posting this to the solarpunk farming community? !farming

mipadaitu OP ,

Done

ThrowawaySobriquet , in Disaster with the floating garden

Ah, bummer. But like you said, this is why we experiment. Negative results are still results!

mipadaitu OP ,

If you only share perfection people don't see what some of the pitfalls could be! I love seeing results, no matter which way they fall.

blindbunny , in Floating Island Garden

Aquaponics with less steps 😜

BubbleMonkey ,
@BubbleMonkey@slrpnk.net avatar

Not less steps; this is the OG aquaponics method and has been around for hundreds of years. Everything else is just refining for efficiency and space limitations.

https://www.milkwood.net/2014/01/20/aquaponics-a-brief-history/

blindbunny ,

Less steps the humans have to take. Cool link I'm pretty versed in Choctaw agriculture 😁

Live_your_lives , in Floating Island Garden

If you ever want to try creating your own floating mat, this guy goes through the steps that worked for him:
https://howtorewild.co.uk/actions/build-a-floating-bog/

MilitantAtheist ,

Love that it's not a YouTube video.
Someone needs to fix an AI that scrubs YouTube tutorials and makes text and image versions. 😐

SchmidtGenetics , in First year setup

Are those trellises for the plants to hang out on or critter guards?

Blackout OP ,
@Blackout@kbin.run avatar

For the plants. I am pulling the vine ones thru the holes and getting them to climb up it. Will just have to wake up before the critters

systemglitch , in Disaster with the floating garden

That seemed inevitable considering how light that material is . You expected that, but just hoped for the best nonetheless?

Bitswap Mod , in [Meta] Thank you everyone for keeping this community active!

Agreed. This community has been more active lately and I love it! I just hope it means people aren't spending their time here instead of in their garden!!

bobburger , in Disaster with the floating garden

The past few days have taught me it's a lot harder to get floating projects right than I thought it would be.

catloaf ,

That's why people rarely do it. Nature be crazy, and wind and water are the things that hit hardest.

Ageroth , in Disaster with the floating garden

How uv stable is the foam? Not much can survive being in the sun all day without degrading

GluWu ,

I was going to comment on the first post but there's nothing to add here. I don't even understand how 6 floor mats tossed in a pond with zero foresight or research got the number of articles it did. Someone saw a post on Instagram and thought "we can put flowers in the pond!". "Because of algae"

Is there anything that can eat the algae? Nahhhh

Are the native bank or aquatic plants that will suck up the nitrates? Nahhhhh

Are there viable floating hydroponic systems growing plants suitable for hydroponics? Nahhhhhhhhh

mipadaitu OP ,

You saw, but did not read my original post.

GluWu ,

I did. But since you're assuming I didn't why don't you go ahead and tell me what you assumed I missed.

mipadaitu OP ,

Yes, this type of foam is used for docks, boats, sports, and more importantly... this is what the original papers used. All of the parts are rated for water, temperature, and UV resistance.

NataliePortland , in Floating Island Garden
@NataliePortland@lemmy.ca avatar

Wow that’s fascinating! How will you know if it’s working? Will you do lab samples?

mipadaitu OP ,

For this year, we're only interested in seeing how the island looks, and if the plants can thrive with low effort.

Next year, if all goes well, we'll add a lot more islands and do water testing.

I don't expect a significant impact to water quality with a single mat.

Atelopus-zeteki ,
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That was my first thought, along the lines of 'how much plant mass will you need to significantly reduce N in the water, enough so that it has sufficient reduction of unwanted photosynthesis'? I look forward to reading of your progress.

mipadaitu OP ,

The projects they are doing in Florida say they are targeting 10% surface coverage, that would be unrealistic in our situation, so we're just going to do our best and balance cost/looks/effort with effectiveness.

Atelopus-zeteki ,
@Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run avatar

Interesting, so less than 10% might be sufficient for your needs? That dosen't sound too onerous. I was at Fairchild Tropical Garden in Miami, FL some years ago. They had a small pond, roughly 20X30 feet more or less, with Amazonian plants. Initially the local algae was interfering with the Amazonian species, so they put black dye in the water to inhibit the algae. At the time, there was also a showing of Dale Chihuly's glass work in the garden, including several 1-2 ft. multicolored spheres floating the the black water of the Amazonian pond; looking like alien planets floating in the darkness of space. It may well have been this pond, pictured.

mipadaitu OP ,

Well, to get to 10% coverage on this pond, we would need 700 of these islands (assuming they were all the same size), which would mean we needed to prep around 37,000 plants every winter to install every spring.

We'll probably shoot for a more realistic target to start with.

PlantJam ,

Would native riparian plants planted directly into the pond be an option?

prettybunnys , in Disaster with the floating garden

Unless you’re securing the sections together beyond the interlocking bits I’d expect to eventually run into a scenario where everything breaks apart too.

lurch , in Disaster with the floating garden

i did not expect this level of action ngl

mipadaitu OP ,

Neither did we!

blindbunny , in Disaster with the floating garden

Nooooo!

ChocoboRocket , in Disaster with the floating garden

I didn't look very close at the growing medium, so the "spill" looked like deer poops and I imagined a deer was tricked onto water and literally all the shit was scared out of 'em when they fell in

Happy to see your garden was salvaged and improved, but a little sad that my deer theory wasn't accurate

mipadaitu OP ,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/95eaaacd-c557-46fb-8414-ed021ea4e91b.png

The growing medium is LECA, but we did catch a deer nearby, so I guess it's POSSIBLE it was deer inflicted.

homesweethomeMrL , in Disaster with the floating garden

Dang ol nature man, tell you whut

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