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Luci , in [SOLVED] Framework laptop 16 won't boot at all after failed Linux Mint install
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Kinda sounds like the bootloader didn't install or the boot partition got mangled.

If there isn't anything of value you could just reinstall, would make sense to use fresh media and use the built in verification before installation.

If you need the data back, use a valid live cd to copy it off the system first.

Edit: consider a page file over a swap partition as it can be adjusted on the fly without a reboot. I work with VMs a lot and having a page file has been very helpful when I need a little boost or want to slim down.

s12 OP ,
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Umm... thank you, but I'm not sure you understood my issue.

If there isn’t anything of value you could just reinstall

use a valid live cd

I ... can't.

I don't have any data that needs backing up. It's a new computer. I'm trying to install, but I can't boot off the live media.

Luci ,
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Does the bios have an option to EFI boot from a USB? Sometimes there is a tiny file manager in the boot options that will allow you to boot from an EFI file off a USB key and not just by selecting a different boot option, the issue here seems to be that the firmware is trying to boot from a file that doesn't exist. The odd part is that it won't work from your USB because it seem to be trying to chain boot efi files that don't exist.

Are you sure your live media is good? Does it boot on another system?

s12 OP ,
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Sometimes there is a tiny file manager in the boot options that will allow you to boot from an EFI file off a USB key and not just by selecting a different boot option,

This worked!!

Back into my live environment now.

I'll update my post once I've checked that there are no further problems.

Luci ,
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Glad I could help, please leave an upvote on your way out :))

ipacialsection , in Introducing the new Framework Laptop 13 with Intel Core Ultra Series 1 processors
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While this new display certainly seems better (in terms of being able to use 2x scaling instead of my current 1.25x), I'd honestly prefer to have a cheaper option that's just 1920x1280, so I don't have to use scaling at all. I don't care that much how "crisp" text looks.

TonyOstrich ,

It's just a standard eDP connector. Technically as long as you can find a screen with the same physical dimensions and that uses the same number of eDP lanes or less, you can just drop it in. I have quite a few ThinkPad laptops I have done that with. The screens in them are not an option Lenovo ever offered for those laptops.

TheHobbyist ,

Is that a resolution which is proposed elsewhere? Sounds very unique to me. Or did you mean 1920x1200?

ipacialsection ,
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I proposed that resolution because it's the closest to 1920x1200, but keeping a 3:2 aspect ratio.

TheHobbyist ,

I see. In that case a 1920x1200 display with an adjusted frame might be enough? The top and bottom would just need to be slightly thicker to bridge the gap of the missing 80 vertical pixels? Just a thought, not important at all :)

WheelcharArtist , in [SOLVED] Framework laptop 16 won't boot at all after failed Linux Mint install

maybe go to the boot manager and explicitly boot from the usb drive?
seems like your uefi has an entry for which no file was found because your install failed?

s12 OP ,
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Already tried that.

It's definitely trying to boot off the USB. There's nothing else for it to boot from.

narc0tic_bird , in [SOLVED] Framework laptop 16 won't boot at all after failed Linux Mint install
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I had pretty much the same problem on a ThinkPad T490 after a borked Mint install. It tells the EFI to boot into MOK Manager but doesn't provide it under the path (mmx64.efi).

I don't 100 % remember what I did to fix it but I think I booted into an EFI Shell and wiped boot entries off the NVRAM. Resetting the BIOS should do that, but this may vary by manufacturer.

sloppy_diffuser , in [SOLVED] Framework laptop 16 won't boot at all after failed Linux Mint install

Here is a thread with your exact issue: https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=412942

s12 OP ,
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Thank you.

This looks very promising. It doesn't seem to let me write to my live usb though. It just says "Read-only file system" (even when using sudo).

sloppy_diffuser ,

Are you booted off the USB? That won't work, they usually have a ram drive overlay. You'll have to boot from another OS and mount the USB to edit the files.

If it still comes up read-only trying searching some solutions for mounting in read/write. You might have to recreate the ISO USB and edit the files before first booting off it. Maybe there is a resize script to use the full disk on first boot that does some funky stuff or something.

https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/13225/how-do-i-remove-a-read-only-file-system-from-a-usb-drive
https://askubuntu.com/questions/910585/remove-read-only-partition-from-usb

s12 OP , (edited )
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Are you booted off the USB?

No. I plugged it into my current laptop that already has Linux Mint installed.

If it still comes up read-only trying searching some solutions for mounting in read/write. You might have to recreate the ISO USB and edit the files before first booting off it. Maybe there is a resize script to use the full disk on first boot that does some funky stuff or something.

Thanks. I'll look into it. ... edit: not having much luck so far.

Mangoholic , in [SOLVED] Framework laptop 16 won't boot at all after failed Linux Mint install

I am 1st time linux user I wanted to install mint from usb. At first it worked then when i tried to install it, I could not because of bitlocker. I then rebooted but windows already activated bitlocker, and afterwards any usb boot would show the exact same error message you have.
I ultimately had to wipe my encrypted partition of win and installed Ubuntu instead. I am happy for now, learning to use linux with Ubuntu and maybe try mint or arch when more advanced.
Maybe that helps you in some way best of luck.

sloppy_diffuser , in [SOLVED] Framework laptop 16 won't boot at all after failed Linux Mint install

I can kind of make out "Not Found" as the last words on every line with efi on the first line.

I don't have a framework so don't know the ins and out but my guess here is you need to hit whatever key is needed to bring up the boot drive selection menu to pick the installer USB.

You could also check that USB is towards the top in the BIOS settings if you want to change the default boot priority.

I don't know if CMOS battery resetting is still a thing; I haven't done it in a decade. That is another thought if some bad state (e.g., secure boot) is still getting held by the mobo chipset. I'd confirm with some documentation or Framework support first though. I've never done it on a secure boot system.

s12 OP ,
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Thanks.

I've updated my post to add a transcription to the body.

hit whatever key is needed to bring up the boot drive selection menu to pick the installer USB.

It's already the only option there. I just got the same error.

I'm pretty sure the issue is with secure boot.

sloppy_diffuser ,

Check my other reply. Looks like your options are to rename a file or two, or change some BIOS/EFI settings to look for a different boot file (if available), or CMOS reset to clear nvram.

Tolookah , in [SOLVED] Framework laptop 16 won't boot at all after failed Linux Mint install

I'm not able to help, but That text is really hard to read, can you either type it out or give a much better picture?

s12 OP ,
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Sorry. The hosting site may have reduced the quality. I've added a transcription to the post.

fl42v , in [SOLVED] Framework laptop 16 won't boot at all after failed Linux Mint install

The error shown in the image is unreadable. Can you take a pic of it specifically?

steal_your_face , in Docking station for laptop to high res monitor.
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I have a caldigit ts3 I got from work that works well with the framework. Looks like it only does a max of one 5k or two 4k monitors. They have a new one (caldigit ts4) that appears to work up to 8k.

If it were me (and I didn’t get the dock free from work) I’d just buy and test a few cheap amazon docks then return the ones I dont like.

shertson OP ,
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I hate returning stuff, but sometimes it just can't be avoided.

I've ordered the Caldigit TS3. I'll update after I get a chance to test it.

shertson OP ,
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Thanks, I received the caldigit have set it up. Everything seems to be working.

https://lemmy.world/comment/9499430

steal_your_face ,
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Hell yeah brother

shertson OP ,
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Just wanted to share a follow up.

The dock works great under most circumstances. The issue that i have, which was listed by others in reviews for many different docks, is when connected through my KVM. It takes forever to sync up and drive my display. By forever, I mean 30+ seconds most of the time, and occasionally I have to disconnect the cable, open the laptop lid and then reconnect the cable.

steal_your_face ,
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Oof thats annoying. I never used a kvm. Just used the same inputs for my work and personal laptop and switched which one was plugged into the dock.

shertson OP ,
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Yeah, I have a 4 port KVM. One for my work issued Surface laptop, one for my mini-pc, one for my Framework 13, and one for any computer that I'm troubleshooting. I'm thinking about moving to my Framework fully and changing the mini-pc into another node for self-hosting setup.

ichbinjasokreativ , in Docking station for laptop to high res monitor.

3840x2160 is standard 4k, not 8k

shertson OP ,
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Sorry, I thought I replied.

Thank you for the correction.

some_guy , in Introducing the new Framework Laptop 13 with Intel Core Ultra Series 1 processors

I'm very interested in Framework as a company / device-maker. I was just custom configuring a laptop on their site yesterday. Not because I'll buy one (I'm a Mac guy), but because I really want them to succeed in huge ways and I'm curious.

I don't know enough about this new chip from Intel, so I'll wait for product reviews to tell me what the marketing material won't.

steal_your_face ,
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They’re cool and a lot of Linux distros are way more similar to Mac than windows.

Amaterasu , in Gaming on the AMD Framework 13! Native, Docked & eGPU Performance.

Thunderbolt 4 is a huge disappointment hopefully things improve for eGPUs docks with TB5 and USB 4 v2

Cris_Color , in Coreboot Progress - Update on the AMD board
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Ayyyy, that's dope!

umbrella , in Coreboot Progress - Update on the AMD board
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this laptop is shaping up to be NICE

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