Fantasy books, stories, &c

hydroptic , in Just started The Wandering Inn...then noticed the number of pages.

First time reading fantasy?

Jesus_666 ,

You could probably make the Wheel of Time series 20% shorter if you removed the fashion descriptions and all instances of people conveying moderate annoyance through body language.

hydroptic ,

And cut the length of what seems like 70% of fantasy books in half by only describing food with one sentence

BubbleMonkey ,
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Wheel of time is one series I wanted to like but just couldn’t get through after a certain point.

Like the author wasn’t quite sure where he wanted to go so just didn’t go anywhere at all for a long time..

halykthered ,
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I was told books 1-4 and then the last few were amazing. I wasn't enraptured by the first few, so I put it down as well. I didn't want to slog through 5 more books in the hopes I'd potentially enjoy 4 more.

BubbleMonkey ,
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Sounds about right, I think I got too bored to continue on 5. I seem to recall 4 was a bit slow too but it just dropped right off after.

Life is too short for a slog.

Capitao_Duarte ,
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Só did I. Two stars for book one, couldn't even rate book 2, DNF book 3 and never touched it again.
It actually made me second guess other books. "If you like TWoT you'll love X" always make me think twice about reading something

Buddahriffic ,

I'd love to see Brandon Sanderson versions of the earlier novels. Sure, he did end up turning what was supposed to be one more book into 3 more that are each thicker than the rest, but I suspect Jordan himself would have made more than 3.

I didn't stop reading over this, but I was annoyed when one book ends in (big event that can be felt over the entire world) and then the next book doesn't really advance time at all, but just describes what pretty much every single other character was doing at that moment. Fine, it was kinda cool to see that, but I really just wanted to see the results of that big event instead of having to wait some more years for the next book to come out.

I consider Jordan kinda like Tolkien. Amazing world and story building combined with ok writing. Not bad (way better than I could do) but not amazing either.

Though I do still need to do another read through as an adult, since I read like half of them as a teen and probably missed a lot. Maybe I'll enjoy the lengthy descriptions of tapestry patterns second time around.

DragonTypeWyvern , (edited )

The Wandering Inn is currently over 12 million words long.

The Wheel of Time is 4.4 million words long.

Apologize to OP, or I'll sic some goblins on you.

hydroptic ,

Holy crap, I had no idea Wandering Inn is that ridiculously long. I take it all back

mesamunefire OP ,

It's all good. It's really crazy and most of the chapters are free on their website.

And the author makes a metric fucknton of updates per month. At one point I thought there might be ghost writers....but the author streams for patreon which is wild. So yeah no funny business.

simply_surprise , in I just watched this little documentary on Ursula K. Le Guin. I never heard of her before this. Does the community have one or two books they recommend?
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I very much enjoyed the Earthsea series, and very greatly disliked The Dispossessed. I can understand why other people like it, but it's very much not for me.

I remember thinking The Left Hand of Darkness was an enjoyable read, but kind of tough to get through. That was maybe 10 years ago, though.

I'd maybe start with the first Earthsea book since they're a bit more digestible. She's worth a read if you're curious!

Hugin , in I just watched this little documentary on Ursula K. Le Guin. I never heard of her before this. Does the community have one or two books they recommend?

Her big there are The Left Hand of Darkenss (about gender), The Disposed ( capitalism vs anarchism), The Lathe of Heaven (Dreams alter reality).

They are all good but I wouldn't describe them as easy or fun reads. I didn't enjoy any of them but after reading them I a lot of depth of thought on the topic.

Personally I liked the Lathe of Heaven best.

RagingHungryPanda OP ,

Thanks for that input! I got the impression her stuff leans more to the heavy side. I've got a nice queue to go through now! 😁

RizzRustbolt , in I just watched this little documentary on Ursula K. Le Guin. I never heard of her before this. Does the community have one or two books they recommend?

The Lathe of Heaven. It's a fun little jaunt through deterministic reality bending.

CuriousRefugee , in I just watched this little documentary on Ursula K. Le Guin. I never heard of her before this. Does the community have one or two books they recommend?

Maybe not the first book to read, but one of the ones that made me think the most was The Dispossessed

Le Guin is one of my favorite authors, so I'm excited to see other people reading her for the first time!

Xaphanos ,

My all-time favorite.

GlassHalfHopeful , in I just watched this little documentary on Ursula K. Le Guin. I never heard of her before this. Does the community have one or two books they recommend?
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I recently read and really enjoyed The Left Hand of Darkness. It's crazy that she wrote such a book back then. Now I'm longing for more books like this.

Today, I'm on (a rare) vacation (yay!). I'm reading through her Earthsea books. When they ended sooner than I expected, I realized they were intended as young adult books. It's not as in depth as other fantasy, but I've enjoyed them nonetheless.

koncertejo , in I just watched this little documentary on Ursula K. Le Guin. I never heard of her before this. Does the community have one or two books they recommend?

My favourite is The Left Hand of Darkness, starts out slow and kinda turns into a different book in the second half, but highly recommended.

theilleist , in I just watched this little documentary on Ursula K. Le Guin. I never heard of her before this. Does the community have one or two books they recommend?

If you were only going to read one or two, then sure, go for The Left Hand of Darkness (for sci-fi) or A Wizard of Earthsea (for fantasy), though there are some loose sequels to each of those you might end up wanting to pursue. But personally I've always been most fond of Always Coming Home.

Glemek , in I just watched this little documentary on Ursula K. Le Guin. I never heard of her before this. Does the community have one or two books they recommend?

LeGuin is one of my favorite authors. I've read a lot, but not all of LeGuin's novels. She has 2 main multibook series that I've read, the Earthsea books and the Hainish cycle.

Earthsea is sort of YA fantasy, but grows up throughout the series. The first 3 are a self contained trilogy, and my favorite is Tombs of Atuan which is book 2, I think would be okay as a standalone title. My other favorite is Tales from Earthsea which is book 5, and is a collection of short stories set in the setting. You'd be missing a little context only reading Tales, but this could also be a standalone.

The Hainish cycle is scifi, and are only loosely connected by the setting and don't have a too firmly established chronology, or any shared main characters. My favorite from the Hainish Cycle is The Left Hand of Darkness and my 2nd favorite is The Dispossessed.

flying_sheep , in I just watched this little documentary on Ursula K. Le Guin. I never heard of her before this. Does the community have one or two books they recommend?
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“the dispossessed” is an absolute classic and I enjoyed it a lot.

tabris , (edited ) in I just watched this little documentary on Ursula K. Le Guin. I never heard of her before this. Does the community have one or two books they recommend?

Everyone here has already suggested Earthsea, but if you're also after a great sci-fi from her, I'd suggest The Dispossessed.

GammaGames , in I just watched this little documentary on Ursula K. Le Guin. I never heard of her before this. Does the community have one or two books they recommend?
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I shared
The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas (a short story) a bit ago: https://literature.cafe/post/7360325

I’ve also been recommended The Left Hand of Darkness, though I haven’t read it yet

cakeistheanswer , in I just watched this little documentary on Ursula K. Le Guin. I never heard of her before this. Does the community have one or two books they recommend?
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The classic is a wizard of earthsea/left hand of darkness and they are always worth repeating. If you do just two, those are them. It's almost criminal how these are kinda slipping beneath view these days.

I got a steady diet of her short stories and children's books growing up. I remember sur specifically, but generally they were less fantasy oriented from what I can remember.
(Edit:huzzah autocorrect)

cdipierr ,

The Left Hand of Darkness is great. I really need to get around to Wizard of Earthsea.

cakeistheanswer ,
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I think you're in for a treat, but I am horribly biased by nostalgia and it's impossible for me to be objective about that one. There is something deeply soothing to how what stands out changes even if the words don't.

I remembered " to light a candle is to cast a shadow ".

But:
"I had forgotten how much how much light there is in the world, till you gave it back to me".
Jumped out.

velox_vulnus , (edited ) in I just watched this little documentary on Ursula K. Le Guin. I never heard of her before this. Does the community have one or two books they recommend?
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I'm reading the Book of Earthsea! Her sci-fi books are known for being pro-anarchist, but I've yet to read them.

Track_Shovel , in I just watched this little documentary on Ursula K. Le Guin. I never heard of her before this. Does the community have one or two books they recommend?

While I haven't read her, the Earth Sea trilogy is supposed to be top notch. It's on my list after I finish Malazan

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