deegeese ,
@deegeese@sopuli.xyz avatar

Correct, they require air pressure to work.

Could work inside a spaceship/station.

grue ,

If by "in space" you mean in zero-G inside a spacecraft, yes. If you mean in a vacuum, no.

Xantar ,

So you're telling me a space octopus would be powerless ?

JimmyMcGill ,

Other than the fact that it’s an octopus that managed to survive and thrive in outer space, yes.

NeptuneOrbit ,

Yes. They won't work because they operate on a difference in air pressure providing a force. No air? No force. Same reason an airplane wing won't provide lift in the upper atmosphere.

But, compare to a rocket engine that does NOT need an atmosphere to push against.

ricecake ,

Phrases I did not expect to think this early in the morning: "what's the rocket engine of suction cups?”

Shurimal ,

Velcro, or maybe Van Der Waals force, or maybe whatever the hell makes gauge blocks stick to each other.

ricecake ,

I like the gauge block notion. A (quick) search says that it's a combination of surface tension from the oils they're coated in, suction (gone for us), and the super flat surfaces slightly exchanging electrons and bonding in close proximity.

I'm a fan of the surface tension angle as the "rocket of suction cups", since it's got that "non-binding force" element, where welding or glue feels different, and Velcro feels like a tangle.
It's "pull-y" where suction is "push-y".

Now the question is would surface tension grab something in a vacuum the way it does outside of one. I know you'd have water sublimate off, so it's questionable to me.

pixeltree ,
@pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

That's a really good question. I have a (crappy) vacuum chamber, I'll give it a go. I suspect they won't!

apocalypticat ,
@apocalypticat@lemmy.world avatar

I wonder if you would have to stick it while in vacuum for the condition to really be replicated.

bjoern_tantau ,
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

Should deflate and fall off while the air is pumped out.

Suction cups aren't held by the vacuum they created but by the outside air pressing them down.

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