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hydroptic , to World News in Lured with promise of Russian bride & job, 2 tortured for refusing to join army | Times of India

Kidnapping foreigners to fight in their genocidal war is a new low for Russians, but it's not like I'm surprised.

And no, shit like this wouldn't be fixed by replacing Putin – he's not the cause of everything that's wrong with Russia, he's a symptom.

Fubarberry , to World News in Lured with promise of Russian bride & job, 2 tortured for refusing to join army | Times of India
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Pretty rough, from what I understand:

  • Promised jobs in Germany
  • sent to Bangkok instead
  • Taken to Belarus
  • Taken across border into Russia, kept at camps.

Once in Russia, they were told to join the Russian Army. To motivate them, they were:

  • Offered Russian work visas, brides, and passports
  • Denied food and water when they refused.
  • Burned with heated wood and matchsticks, cut with knives, and other torture methods
  • Threated with knives and guns
  • Finally arrested for illegally entering the Russia.

I've heard other reports of people from India getting forced into fighting for Russia after fraudulent job offers, so it seems like this is becoming fairly widespread.

Stewbs OP , to Privacy in Indian Government to block ProtonMail after bomb threats were sent using a ProtonMail account
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Btw Internet Freedom Foundation (or the IFF) filed several RTI requests (RTI = Request to information) regarding this situation. If anyone wants to follow their progress then here’s their Mastodon account: https://mastodon.world/@internetfreedom@mas.to

The IFF is a highly trustworthy and well respected organization that fights for Indians digital rights and democratic freedoms. They’ve done a lot of good work over the years, they even helped VLC to get unblocked when it was banned in India.

Stewbs OP ,
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Here's their toot mentioning the situation with Proton Mail: https://mastodon.world/@internetfreedom@mas.to/111935324571240375

ChaoticEntropy , to Privacy in Indian Government to block ProtonMail after bomb threats were sent using a ProtonMail account
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Well that's definitely one option, I guess...

Omega_Haxors , to Privacy in Indian Government to block ProtonMail after bomb threats were sent using a ProtonMail account

You mean the fascist Indian government? Yeah, they can get blasted.

aronkvh , to Privacy in Indian Government to block ProtonMail after bomb threats were sent using a ProtonMail account

I hope they ban WhatsApp if anyone sends a bomb threath trough WhatsApp

Undertaker , to Privacy in Indian Government to block ProtonMail after bomb threats were sent using a ProtonMail account

Next time send a letter. Letters will be banned.

Stewbs OP ,
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let's ban phones next guys

shootwhatsmyname ,
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and brains too, very dangerous

RandoCalrandian ,
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Can’t have those things being used unregulated or unmonitored

shootwhatsmyname ,
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we should make like a scoring system that (without human involvement) determines what brains are the best and worst behaved, thus more likely to benefit their leaders. we could design our society to keep people so preoccupied on making their score better (through things not beneficial to themselves whatsoever) that they don’t have enough time to think about how completely alone and manipulated they feel (we don’t want them feeling that :). maybe down the road this score could be used for good things like improving the economy (selling access to third parties) and handling food and resource concerns (automated death row enrollment)

RandoCalrandian ,
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We’ll make it AI trained on all the “best” citizens, fully automatic!

merde , to Privacy in Indian Government to block ProtonMail after bomb threats were sent using a ProtonMail account
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useless, unless they block protonVpn too

THE_MASTERMIND ,

Jio aldready does that

Stewbs OP ,
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Other than Jio, idrk know of any ISP that does that

UnfortunateShort , to Privacy in Indian Government to block ProtonMail after bomb threats were sent using a ProtonMail account

Send a bomb threat from all major mail-providers any% speedrun anyone?

Seriously, as if no one ever send a threat from a throwaway Gmail account. The bullshit governments come up with to dismantle privacy...

Catsrules ,

Have you tried creating an account recently with any other providers? Almost all of them require a phone number of some kind. This creates a paper trail back to the owner.

LoveSausage ,

Lol. I can get a fake phone number or create a Gmail without any phone number blind drunk.

THE_MASTERMIND ,

Lol you can't if you use tor or vpn gmail will ask for a phone number

LoveSausage , (edited )

Use a public net /local coffee shop. Or one of the options above. Also No issue running stealth mode VPN ..

THE_MASTERMIND ,

In india public net is very rare

LoveSausage ,

Then get a fake number

THE_MASTERMIND ,

How my man you need an identity card that verifies through government database to get a sim in india.

LoveSausage ,

You don't need a sim to get a verification code. Here is a service I use https://sms-man.com/?ref=qPLi0ekHzn_c but plenty of free ones if you got the time to test 20 non working numbers to find one that works. Just Google temporary SMS or recieve SMS online

THE_MASTERMIND ,

I used to try these but gave up after spending too much time on those

LoveSausage ,

Well sms-man works fine

THE_MASTERMIND ,

Will try

Catsrules ,

Oh well please tell me. Have yet to find a way around creating a Gmail account without a valid phone number.

LoveSausage , (edited )

Well a few ways . Create it on a pixelphone running GOS thru the sandboxed playstore . I also believe it works on any phone running below android 5.

Get a fake number. Plenty of options on Google I use a paid service using Monero. Worth it , cost like 3 euro for a few hours, or a few cents for a one-time SMS.

UnfortunateShort ,

I recently did just that, even via VPN. They simply didn't ask me to. Maybe a regional thing?

UnfortunateShort ,

You will find services that provide you with a phone number that can be traced back to no one, if you dig a little... In some countries you can straight up just buy an eSIM with a false identity

Stewbs OP ,
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The thing is, google will willingly hand over the data willy-nilly when asked for which proton does not so ofc they are the "bad guys" here. Hurrr, what do you mean that I cannot ask you to access any user's data at any time?! Also here's a funny thing, look at the comments in the article I linked lol, they do not understand how Proton operates and how the Swiss law applies to them

someguy3 , to Privacy in Indian Government to block ProtonMail after bomb threats were sent using a ProtonMail account

lolol

onlinepersona , to Privacy in Indian Government to block ProtonMail after bomb threats were sent using a ProtonMail account

So if it's sent with WhatsApp, they'll ban WhatsApp? That's the logic here, right?

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venji10 ,

Did you just license your comment?

SomeBoyo ,

You don't?

ISOmorph ,

He does that on all his posts. I immediately recognize him each time he comments. I don't know if he's just trolling or he really thinks it's gonna keep the LLMs away. In any case, it's funny as shit.

TheAnonymouseJoker ,

If it managed to make corporate AI public licensed, it would be a 4D chess move.

Stewbs OP ,
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that's amazing lmao

THE_MASTERMIND ,

Lol what a madlad

Stewbs OP , to Proton in Indian Government to block ProtonMail after bomb threats were sent using a ProtonMail account
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Really amazes me how our government handles situations like these in the worst ways possible. Really hope the idiots at the top of the ladder get some braincells and see how stupid this whole debacle is

Stewbs OP ,
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The block order hasn't been initiated """yet""" but knowing the stance the Indian Government has on encryption as a whole, it's not much to go with.

Say the service does get blocked then the app will be available through F-Droid but the website will most likely be blocked by most ISPs. if any Indian user still wishes to continue using PM if a block order is initiated then they'll most likely have to use a VPN or a proxy server or through Tor. It'll also be possible to access the website if they use a different DNS.

I'm really hoping it doesn't end up being banned but seeing how the Indian government banned VLC a few years ago (unbanned it later on however) for the stupidest reasons possible.... Yeah it doesn't exactly induce much confidence....

pearsaltchocolatebar ,

I'm pretty sure that most people who are using Proton Mail are technologically savvy enough to bypass whatever half assed measure the government puts in place.

Stewbs OP ,
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I agree! But it's still an issue as there are quite a few proton mail users who just wish to achieve a tad bit more privacy and aren't tech savvy. I know some folks like that myself and tbh sometimes all the technical stuff or going through hoops can just be very daunting/overwhelming at times

Riven ,
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Wait, why they ban VLC?

taanegl , to Israel and Palestine Politics Discussion in Top EU diplomat accuses Israel of 'creating' and 'financing' Hamas - Times of India

There's a grain of truth to it. Make no mistake, Hamas is run by oligarchs with ties of Iran. But, Hamas has also been supported by Isreal - and Netenyahu himself.

This is because Hamas is politically advantageous to Netenyahu, as they represent the Iranian oligopoly more than they do Palestinians.

It's money mounds for the leadership, martyrdom for the grunts.

Palestine needs it's own state, and not via lip service, and it's own official military. Continuously believing Hamas can fill that gap is dangerous.

Linkerbaan , to News in Better to die in Israel than of hunger here, say job seekers in Haryana
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American tax dollars being spent on Indians to slave away for Nazi's.

givesomefucks , to World News in Better to die in Israel than of hunger here, say job seekers in Haryana

So...

People from a far right ethnostate run by religious extremists don't mind moving to another far right ethnostate also run by religious extremists who happen to target the same religious group?

Shocking...

And why do they think they'll die in Israel?

i_have_no_enemies OP ,

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  • Altofaltception ,

    If Muslims genocided Hindus in India, why are Hindus a majority population group in India?

    i_have_no_enemies OP ,

    it was thanks to marathas and other hindu kings that some were granted safe shelter for generations

    did you read this part? genocide can be partial as well

    Altofaltception ,

    Did the Marathas and other Hindu kings control all of India? If not, where were the Muslim controlled areas where genocide occurred?

    i_have_no_enemies OP ,

    not all of india,

    read up on aurangzeb

    Altofaltception ,

    So not the 800 years of genocide then?

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