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Dkarma , to politics in The Supreme Court gives Trump what he wants, dismantling insurrection clause and delaying immunity trial

The Roberts court is illegitimate.

Period.

DarkDarkHouse ,
@DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

No, those are banned now too

ceenote , to politics in The Supreme Court gives Trump what he wants, dismantling insurrection clause and delaying immunity trial

"We're concerned about the practical implications of individual states being able to take candidates off the ballot."

"But the practical implications of your ruling basically erases a constitutional amendment."

"Oh no! Anyway..."

Pistcow ,

Nothing more constitutional than nullifying the Constitution.

gravitas_deficiency , (edited )

The doublethink being flagrantly exhibited by the court at this point should beggar belief… but honestly, I don’t think anybody is surprised anymore. To be perfectly frank: we expect it. Overall national confidence in the integrity of the Supreme Court is fairly shattered nowadays.

I guess Roberts’s plan to burnish his historical legacy is to help the Republic of Gilead establish itself and ask them to build him a statue in exchange. What a fucking limpdick.

NineMileTower , to politics in The Supreme Court gives Trump what he wants, dismantling insurrection clause and delaying immunity trial

I would never have seen this coming!

dangblingus , to politics in Fetal personhood laws are about more than abortion: Republicans block bill to protect IVF nationwide

This was all about how Alabama lawmakers sincerely thought you could make human/animal hybrids using IVF right?

Fucking complete gong show. Why don't Americans do something about the gross mismanagement of their country at every single level?

Dagwood222 , to politics in Fetal personhood laws are about more than abortion: Republicans block bill to protect IVF nationwide

Back in 2001, Right To Life President George W, Bush ruled that fetal stem cell research, which involves aborted humans, was fine and dandy. This came after Right To Life former First Lady Nancy Reagan discovered that stem cell technology might help Ronnie's dementia.

They have no problem playing both sides of the issue.

die444die ,

This is incorrect. Bush banned new lines of fetal stem cells from being used. This was a step backwards for research.

Read more here:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2744932/

Dagwood222 ,

On August 9, 2001, U.S. President George W. Bush introduced a ban on federal funding for research on newly created human embryonic stem (ES) cell lines. The policy was intended as a compromise and specified that research on lines created prior to that date would still be eligible for funding. Seventy-one lines from 14 laboratories [1] across the globe met Bush’s eligibility criteria, and scientists who wished to investigate these lines could still receive grants through the National Institutes of Health (NIH). In practice, however, only 21 lines proved to be of any use to investigators [2].

It was a compromise that siad that some aborted corpses were okay.

die444die ,

It was a compromise that siad that some aborted corpses were okay.

They stopped any further lines from being created. What do you not understand about this? It was already ongoing research, and they put a stop to it for political purposes. Even if this calls it a “compromise” it meant that no further lines (no new fetal tissue) could be used.

Portraying GWB as someone who was fighting for stem cell research rather than against it is flat out false.

Dagwood222 ,

Where did I say he was fighting for it? I said that he didn't ban it completely because there were other people in the GOP who wanted the research to continue.

If he'd really believed that the soul begins at conception, there would have no cell research at all. That's the point I was trying to make.

die444die ,

What they wanted was no cell research at all. But that wasn’t politically possible, and it wasn’t because other members of the GOP didn’t want it. So he “compromised” by saying they could still use the existing lines but no future lines could be created. You’re acting like the GOP was okay with this, they were not. This was a compromise because it’s was the best they could do at the time, and it still got some of the research banned.

Sure Nancy Reagan was outspoken about it but it was not the GOP.

BigMacHole , to politics in Fetal personhood laws are about more than abortion: Republicans block bill to protect IVF nationwide

Republicans TOTALLY would SUPPORT IVF but those DAMN Democrats had to Block it!

-Fox News. Probably.

Rolder , to politics in Fetal personhood laws are about more than abortion: Republicans block bill to protect IVF nationwide

If a fetus is a person then I expect that pregnant women will be able to claim them on taxes, ride in the family lane, all that kind of stuff

vikingqueef OP ,

Most likely not and the child will have less rights as soon as its born. Its always been about forced birth to maintain a population of poor folk that they can exploit as a cheap labor source.

NatakuNox , to politics in Fetal personhood laws are about more than abortion: Republicans block bill to protect IVF nationwide
@NatakuNox@lemmy.world avatar

The GOP hates IVF because a man doesn't get sexual gratification from the process... Well, not in the way they want anyways. And to think, a woman could get pregnant without a man. Or even worse, two gays could have a kid. The GOP is a sad organization that literally wants the elimination or subjugation of all nonwhite-nonmale-nonchristian-nonstraight people.

vikingqueef OP ,

Its the Amerikkkan way

deania , to politics in Fetal personhood laws are about more than abortion: Republicans block bill to protect IVF nationwide

Republicans try to increase birth rates, but end up blocking IVF instead:

"It hurt itself in its confusion stupidity!"

stoly ,

Because conservatives don’t consider it the correct way. A child must be conceived when a mommy, a daddy, and an Abrahamic god love each other very much and sleep together. The child can only be born vaginally or the mom isn’t a real mommy.

This is not a joke, they believe this.

LifeInMultipleChoice ,

You forgot they have to also be married in a proper church or both parents and the kid will be shunned

tmyakal ,

This is not a joke, they believe this.

Except for the 78% of Conservatives in support of IVF. This article is literally about Republican lawmakers scrambling because everyone is in favor of IVF.

stoly ,

78% of Conservatives in support of IVF

Yet here we are. These people voted in the idiots who would make a court who would rule this way.

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

If only they had some way to know that the Leopards were going to eat people's faces...

Sanctus , to politics in Fetal personhood laws are about more than abortion: Republicans block bill to protect IVF nationwide
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

I solemnly swear if you take away any more of my daughters' rights I'll take a jack hammer to the I-10 every morning.

SinningStromgald ,

What? And improve it? How will that punish anyone?

Jeknilah ,

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  • CarbonIceDragon ,
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    People generally hold that one has a right to have children (consider that things like government enforced sterilization of low income or minority groups are generally considered to be egregious breaches of the rights of the people affected.) IVF is used to assist people who wish to have children but who for medical reasons have been unable to do so, thus prohibiting it denies the people who need it in order to have kids the right to have them, thus it must be a right by proxy. Yes, things like housing and food should be rights too, but those are irrelevant to this discussion, given that it is possible for more than one thing to be an issue at a time.

    mosiacmango ,

    Dude is on @monero.town. no way this is good faith discussion.

    Ashyr ,

    What's monero.town? I've not seen it before

    Sanctus ,
    @Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

    Monero is a cryptocurrency. So its probably a libertarian tech bro hive.

    homesweethomeMrL ,

    Fun fact: on some lemmy apps you can press-and-hold the username to never see them again.

    Jeknilah ,

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  • CarbonIceDragon ,
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    All rights require assistance to a lesser or greater extent to have any practical consequence. For example, if I were to make it illegal to share any information about where polling places are and then move them somewhere one would be unlikely to find by chance, it is technically still possible to vote if you manage to find the place to do it, but if I were to then argue that what I was doing wasn't violating your right to vote because you aren't entitled to assistance in exercising that right, you'd rightly call bullshit on that argument.

    Further, "rights" do not exclusively refer to things spelled out as part of the constitution like the right to vote. There isn't any explicit right to walk in the constitution that I can think of, but were I to make canes and crutches illegal, it'd absolutely be fair to say that i was taking away disabled people's right to walk.

    Trainguyrom ,

    You really think IVF is a right? Somehow a lifestyle medical procedure is a right in your min

    Restricting reproductive access falls into the "eugenics" umbrella. Of almost any eugenics scheme that's ever been proposed or implemented a core feature has been preventing people who want to have kids from having kids

    How do you expect anyone to care about this frivoulous nonsense when housing, the internet, food, and affordable healthcare all aren’t rights? All you’re doing is clawing for more privilege.

    This is an argument against restricting rights. The GOP appears to be shifting strategy to preventing access to IVF, probably as a new front of the ongoing culture war they use as a smoke screen for everything else they do. Taking away rights that have no good reason to be taken away is absolutely worth fighting for.

    Seraph ,
    @Seraph@kbin.social avatar

    Maybe just take the jackhammer to a billionaire.

    If 750 of us do it in the US we'll finally see some trickle down economics for the first time ever!

    badbytes ,

    Jack hammer a billionaire. Trending.

    HuddaBudda , to A Boring Dystopia in Florida advances bills to roll back child labor laws and prohibit police oversight boards

    When you look at the bill and the amendments they are trying to make, it truly is evil that someone wrote this on paper.

    The amendments remove a lot of verbiage and instead of solidifying protections, puts them into a gray area.

    Minors 16 and 17 years of age may Shall not be employed, permitted, or suffered to work the same number of hours as a
    person who is 18 years of age or older.

    18 year olds can work 72 hours in a week, how does a child go to school with that schedule?

    Minors 15 years of age or younger may shall not be employed, permitted, or suffered to work in any gainful
    occupation for more than 6 consecutive days in any one week.

    No days off

    Minors 16 and 17 years of age may shall not be employed, permitted, or suffered to work before 6:00 6:30a.m. Or after 11:00 p.m. or for more than 8 hours in any one day when school is scheduled the following day.

    These guys are insane if they think kids are going to be able to work overtime and go to school the next day.

    vikingqueef OP ,
    @vikingqueef@lemmy.world avatar

    they clearly don't want them to go to school. they think that schools have become communist indoctrination centers. going right back to mccarthyism: https://floridianpress.com/2024/02/a-stain-on-human-existence-anti-communism-classes-to-come-to-florida-schools/

    LazaroFilm ,
    @LazaroFilm@lemmy.world avatar

    Cerfs are easier to tame when they’re illiterate and believe in the one true god, the king.

    A_Random_Idiot ,
    @A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world avatar

    if we were back to mccarthyism the overwhelming majority of the republican party would be in prison for being communist agents.

    bartolomeo ,
    @bartolomeo@suppo.fi avatar

    This comment is innacurate. The text does not change from "shall not" to "may", it changes from "shall not" to "may not", staying in the negative.

    What is the difference between "shall not" and "may not" in this context?

    meanmon13 ,

    Shall is without exception, may allows for exceptions

    SomeGuy69 , to A Boring Dystopia in Florida advances bills to roll back child labor laws and prohibit police oversight boards

    At this speed they'll legalize child marriage by the end of 2025

    Uranium3006 ,

    It's already legal

    dangblingus , to A Boring Dystopia in Florida advances bills to roll back child labor laws and prohibit police oversight boards

    There's really no other way to interpret "prohibit police oversight boards" as anything other than "we're gonna let the police be as fascist as they want". If Floridians could read, they'd be very upset.

    teamevil ,

    I'm pissed...but I can't read, I just am mad at the picture...

    Seriously this place sucks

    A_Random_Idiot ,
    @A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world avatar

    THere is another way to interpret it.

    "We need police to be complicit in our overthrow of democracy and the institution of a fascist state, so we will remove oversight that might see those that align with our values removed"

    JimmyBigSausage , to A Boring Dystopia in Florida advances bills to roll back child labor laws and prohibit police oversight boards

    Can we just take a punt on Florida? I hope everyone can escape! So sad for the kids.

    Bakkoda ,
    @Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Best way for commercial real estate to buy up properties is to push the populace out.

    dangblingus ,

    But if it sucks to live in Florida anyway, who cares?

    AncientFutureNow ,

    An injustice to one is an injustice to all.

    Bakkoda ,
    @Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works avatar

    It doesn't suck for a very specific sort of people.

    explodicle ,

    Why stop there? The world has never needed huge empires.

    navi ,

    It will be underwater soon anyways.

    HuddaBudda ,

    Escape? I'm here for the front row seats to the category 6 hurricane that is going to take the heart of every landlord and insurance brokerage firm in the whole state.

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