TheVillageGuy

@TheVillageGuy@kbin.melroy.org

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TheVillageGuy ,

https://www.instagram.com/naturejab_?igsh=c2hiMnd6a2IxNTNl Check out this guy who does pyrolysis in his back yard

TheVillageGuy ,

I care. Sorry to see you go. The fediverse can still grow, I suggest you at least stay to lurk and see. It's just not happening at the pace we were all hoping for at the time. Is reddit really that much better? You're not an asshole for being honest

TheVillageGuy ,

No Mbin?

TheVillageGuy ,

Check out https://kbin.melroy.org as well, it's a forked version of kbin

TheVillageGuy ,

Ah

TheVillageGuy ,

Why is that?

TheVillageGuy ,

Reddit was slowly but surely becoming a terrible host for our @RimWorldPorn community (direct link.) Then came the final straw, while we went black we held a vote and a majority voted for the community to move elsewhere. We chose for Mbin, which has turned out a to be a great platform, with the advantage of being part of the fediverse.

I'd personally only used mastodon up to that point, I now hardly ever browse reddit

TheVillageGuy ,

Great to hear kbin is back on track, and assumably so are you @ernest. With so many improvements having been made, however, I can't help but wonder if and how these changes are being made public?

TheVillageGuy ,

One thing I miss in activitypub is a verification system. This is most important for deletion. For example, when something is deleted on one instance, there's no way of knowing for sure if it will be deleted from other instances as well. An instance being down or malfunctioning can cause deletion to fail with no way to know* and try again for op.

*To know one would have to check every single subscribing instance. Trying to delete an already deleted item is obviously impossible

TheVillageGuy ,

Not just deleted, but yes, or a way to check

TheVillageGuy ,

Not sure what you mean exactly

TheVillageGuy ,

No need to prove it, that's not my point

TheVillageGuy ,

Try mbin

TheVillageGuy ,

I miss Fenix

What is going on with kbin - a week has passed with no sign of any life ( kbin.melroy.org )

I know some of you consider this as documented whining. I hear you but won't stop sharing my opinion and reminding. I recommend continuing commenting on the original post to keep it a bit organized (this post is a link to it)...

TheVillageGuy OP ,

It is, the entire post is a link to it and I've linked to it in the body.

TheVillageGuy OP ,

So do I

TheVillageGuy OP ,

A list of mbin instances

TheVillageGuy OP ,

You are making things up my friend, only the first two are on my part

TheVillageGuy OP ,

That's because those made up posts were never made, not by me, at least

TheVillageGuy OP ,

If that were my intention, I would. If things were going ok with kbin I wouldn't have posted this. Or if the chaos in October hadn't happened

TheVillageGuy OP ,

Your opinion is welcome and duely noted. I am posting this on my own behalf, no others related in any way to mbin are involved

When I have time I will read the link you've supplied

However, Please don't spin the situation of kbin so that it looks like I'm the one causing it or making it up. Reality remains that one person controls the main hub kbin.social and has proven and admitted before that he can't handle it by himself.

TheVillageGuy OP ,

Your sympathy for Ernest is good, we all sympathise with him. My main point is and has always been that kbin.social should not be run by one person alone, especially if he's having a hard time in his daily life.

TheVillageGuy OP , (edited )

Maybe I'm blind but I don't see anybody saying that neither is it my opinion

TheVillageGuy OP ,

Sure. If you do too.

This behaviour makes you and by extension mbin seem like a bunch of unhinged petty drama queens.

TheVillageGuy OP ,

Yeah that makes sense and frankly I was a bit scared at first that mbin wouldn't last long. But it's still here and actively being developed. What we have to try to avoid Indeed is forking again.

TheVillageGuy OP ,

That says more about you than about me, really

TheVillageGuy OP , (edited )

It's not one week of inactivity, this has been going on for months. If you want to start accusing me of things please read into the entire situation first, starting in October, on the kbin dev matrix

TheVillageGuy OP ,

Well mission accomplished then, right ¯_(ツ)_/¯

TheVillageGuy OP ,

Touché

TheVillageGuy OP ,

I am not upset, if anything I am a bit worried about losing loads of kbin users should kbin.social fail

TheVillageGuy OP ,

I have offered him my help, several times, when he finally responded he explained he's bad at excepting help. That's fine, but that's one of the things which, as I've said in this thread before, makes him unsuitable for running kbin.social by himself

TheVillageGuy OP ,

Paid for, in part, by the nlnet foundation. So not just his own money, now that you mention it. But that's not what bothers me neither am I trying to take his computer away. What I have asked him to do, several times, and I am not the only one, is to make sure that should something go bad in his life again other people can take over for him (temporarily)

TheVillageGuy OP ,

I assume nlnet are capable of looking after their own business, it's none of mine anyway. And from what Ernest has written in the past I suspect that he's lost the grant.

He has made several promises, several times but never stuck to his words. He's repeating his actions again, although it's not as apparent this time as before, because there's less people involved.

Admins is not enough, there have to be people he trusts, with full access to the server, to make sure the community can be preserved

TheVillageGuy OP , (edited )

I am fully aware, you don't have to inform me about the situation. Reading the devlogs alone is nowhere near enough to get a grasp of the full situation.

Please link to your previous statement so I can read it. I hope you did leave your original one as well.

You are calling people insane, defaming them
without due diligence, think about that before continuing

TheVillageGuy OP , (edited )

It seems you are suggesting I am defaming somebody here. That would be ironical, I fully agree and I'd join you laughing, at myself. If I am misinterpreting you let me know. However, please do prove somehow that I am defaming somebody, anybody. I would seriously be delighted to be proven wrong in this matter.

Calling me childish and desperate for attention. Way less striking than calling an entire group of people insane, but still unnecessarily degrading. Resorting to such language comes across as being desperate to winning a conversation.

About constructive conversation. Calling people insane is not the way to enter one. Talking about irony.

I am very interested to hearing how and where I defamed anybody.

TheVillageGuy OP , (edited )

I was reminded of the situation by a notification of this comment on my post. I realized it was a week ago and out of curiosity checked Ernest's dev blog and the codeberg repo to see if any progress had been made. That is not tracking, that is not stalking, that is not harassment.

You said before you were not involved. Well, now you are. This thread has now been escalated from defamation to false accusations against me, by you.

For real, stop trying to silence me, @melroy and others by pretending I'm committing crimes, and by trying to install fear of further escalation.

Stop trying to blame me for this situation.

What is going on with Kbin

I almost feel like it's October last year, when I pled for improvement on all fronts regarding the Kbin development strategy. Now it seems development has ceased once again and there hasn't been chat on the matrix channels for over a week. Update: that's two weeks now (including his blog) and over a month of no visible...

TheVillageGuy OP ,

That's great, assuming they're all contributing. If that's the case however, I can only assume it's being done behind the scenes, essentially deviating from the open source nature of the project

TheVillageGuy OP ,

If your instance admin would choose to switch to Mbin, you'd hardly notice and you'd definitely not have to make a new user account

TheVillageGuy OP ,

Please prove me wrong, but I am interpreting this as a confirmation of my feeling that development is currently ongoing in the background.

Open source and maintained in an obscure location do not go well together in one sentence. Perhaps if it had been like this all along from the start, so people knew what they were getting into. Taking OSS development offline whenever it suits one person, without any form of announcement let alone an explanation to the community, would bother me

TheVillageGuy OP ,

My point is that there has been no commit to Codeberg for a month. So, if development is still ongoing, it is being done somewhere else.

TheVillageGuy OP ,

Correct. I am addressing the admins of those 28 servers

Of 61,489 users on all instances, 59,962 of these are on kbin.social.

That's kind of worrying then. I am also addressing them to remember there's always going to be Mbin servers to fall back to in case kbin.social fails

TheVillageGuy OP , (edited )

I am very sorry but am not seeing any commits in any of the branches? I may be overlooking something.

Update: sorry I did not read your reply thorougly enough.

But even if that's the case,

Up to a month ago it was common to see commits in the development branch on a regular basis. So it may be a change of strategy, but even if so, it's still without announcement or explanation.

That last thing for me is the issue. It's happened before, where Ernest left everybody dangling. Fair enough, he's written in his devblog. But the community doesn't know if any of that is based on reality and, sadly, due to things which happened in the past and given the circumstances, that makes me very skeptical

TheVillageGuy OP ,

Absolutely and that's totally fine. Ernest however had a lot of his community members believe that they were part of the project, but this turned out not quite to be the case. I fell for that as well, when I joined it seemed like a crowded project with several enthusiastic developers. Not judging, but if I'd known it was a one man project at the time I would not have chosen for kbin for rimworld.gallery

TheVillageGuy OP , (edited )

He sure does and if he gets things sorted I'm sure we can all work side by side contributing to kbin & mbin

TheVillageGuy OP ,

I don't really understand (mbin stays behind) but it sounds interesting, could you explain a bit further?

TheVillageGuy OP ,

Which is now ~ 10 days ago with no sign of any progress. Ask yourselves, what is going on?

TheVillageGuy OP ,

and when I say NOTHING I mean without financing the project.

This is not quite true, the project was being partially financed by external parties

But you are right. And we all know this. Kbin/mbin still is a fantastic project. We all respect Ernest for creating it. The software was immature as you said, a lot of people jumped in and offered their help, including actually making the features they were, as you call it, demanding. He was no longer alone. When things went south, everybody sympathized and several people offered him help and advice in many ways, which he has explicitly refused.

But that was all then, circumstances were far from optimal, indeed. Things are back to normal now, have in fact been for quite a while. This would have been the chance to get things sorted, especially delegating access to the back end of kbin.social, but sadly, nothing has changed

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