Blaze

Blaze , 5 months ago

Hello,

Sounds promising, but be ready to get criticised for choosing Discord

Blaze , 5 months ago

Ah, right, you might expect a repo link indeed

Blaze , 5 months ago

!casualconversation

Blaze , 5 months ago

Having to re-do all your subscriptions,

You can mitigate that by exporting your settings and keeping them as a backup. That's one of the nice features that 19.X brought

Blaze , 5 months ago

You can do it from version 19.X, no? I just did it the other day.

Blaze , 5 months ago

The web alternative interfaces Photon and Alexandrite allow it: https://lemmyapps.netlify.app/

Your instance might have those accessible directly (for instance LW has https://p.lemmy.world/)

Blaze , 5 months ago

Alternative front ends interfaces, the links are in the sidebar

Blaze , 5 months ago

!announcements

https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/9783337

Blaze , 5 months ago

Hello,

Interesting, I didn't know about the UI performance issues, but I definitely felt it recently

Blaze , 5 months ago

Nice!

Blaze , 5 months ago

Hello,

Isn't the original post on this community already?

Blaze , 5 months ago

Interesting perspective

Blaze , 5 months ago

Lots of angry comments in the post announcing Sublinks in this community, mostly criticizing Java choice

Blaze , 5 months ago

I don't know unfortunately, hope someone can help!

Blaze , 5 months ago

You are on SJW, are you really concerned about defederation? You guys seem to be doing well over there

Blaze , 5 months ago

as oppose to relying on the protocols and systems that already exist,

Which alternative to ActivityPub would you suggest?

Blaze , 5 months ago

In simple terms the idea starts from a common praise of the fediverse … that it enables posting between Twitter and Reddit and that it is open. Well, how about we build Reddit and Twitter clones just with FOSS, open APIs and cross posting features?

Isn't that opening the door for future enshittification? Like as soon as Lemmy/Mastodon reach 100k users, a big corporation buys the only instances (as there is no federation in this scenario) to the admins, and turn it into a corporate product? What's preventing that without federation?

Blaze , 5 months ago

In Lemmy terms, a community could subscribe to another community.

In this case, why not merge?

Blaze , 5 months ago

Importing posts and comments could cause a security risk if someone would to abuse that function.

Even Mastodon doesn't support it

Mastodon currently does not support importing posts or media due to technical limitations, but your archive can be viewed by any software that understands how to parse Activity Streams 2.0 documents.

https://docs.joinmastodon.org/user/moving/

Blaze , 5 months ago

Quote posts are still not there, they are on Misskey forks

https://fedi.tips/why-cant-i-quote-other-posts-in-mastodon/

They are on the roadmap, but that doesn't say much.

Blaze , 5 months ago

When you go to /c/books on your server, you don’t see an agglomeration of all /c/books on all servers of the fediverse. You only see that server’s /c/books, if it even has one.

What prevents from visiting /c/books@anotherserver?

Genuinely asking, because this is one of the core concepts of Lemmy and federation

Blaze , 5 months ago

Doesn't !books and !books direct you to yourinstance.org/c/books@lemmy.ml and yourinstance.org/c/books@lemmy.world respectively?

Blaze , 5 months ago

I already posted to anotherserver/c/books and no one ever saw it.

Did you promote that community on !newcommunities and other promotion communities? Did you actively post on your new community, to attract users to your new one?

I'm going to take two examples I personally had

• I'm not a fan of having all discussions on LW, so even if !movies was the most active one, we decided with a few others to start animating !moviesandtv. It is now the most active community on that topic.
• I like the show "the Office". !dundermifflin is the historical community, but as some people are not fans of lemmy.ml, we moved to !dundermifflin, which is now the most active community on this topic.

I guess that shows that community takeover is possible, and does not need additional tools, just some time and dedication.

Blaze , 5 months ago

Meet the new boss, same as old boss.

Who's Lemmy's spez?

• The Lemmy devs operate lemmy.ml, but it's far from being the most active one (it's currently the 5th): https://lemmyverse.net/?order=active_day
• Large instances admins? The most active communities are spread across dbzer0, lemmy.world, programming.dev, lemm.ee, feddit.de, etc.: https://lemmyverse.net/communities?order=active

The main difference of Lemmy compared to Reddit is the ability that communities have to walk away, as I explained in another comment: https://discuss.online/comment/5393546

Blaze , 5 months ago

There are several examples of communities moving from instance to another, or refusing a mod powertrip.

!unixporn was an attempt from the mods subreddit to get the community back, but most of the people rejected that and stayed on !unixporn.

Small scale example, but I like the show "the Office". !dundermifflin is the historical community, but as some people are not fans of lemmy.ml, we moved to !dundermifflin, which is now the most active community on this topic.

I guess that shows that community takeover is possible, and does not need additional tools, just some time and dedication.

Also, keep in mind that except if there is a real reason (admin/mods powertripping, problematic instance direction), there is no incentive for users to move to another community. But the important thing is that the possibility is very much there, and helps keeping everyone in check.

Blaze , 5 months ago

Don’t want to be ostracized because your user is registered on the wrong politic instance ? Join biggest instance instead.

There are plenty of politically neutral instance. Most of them are, actually, the only ones that come to mind as politically oriented are hexbear, lemmygrad and to an extend, lemmy.ml.

That leaves lemm.ee, sh.itjust.works, all the feddit.country, discuss.tchncs.de, sopuli.xyz, reddthat.com, lemmy.zip as neutral alternatives

Blaze , 5 months ago

I always like there are basically two types of topics (because after all, communities are focused on a topic)

• either you have enough of a userbase to have your own flavour on the topic, for instance all the gaming communities that exist on different instances, which all co-exist next to each other, and it wouldn't really make sense to merge them all
• or you don't have enough people, and in this case you should just agree on one instance where to host the community and be done with it

I know there is the political aspect to take into account, but for me that comes back to the first point: if enough people of the same political side want to talk about something between them, that's good. If not, they might have to put that aside and go for the second option.

All that said, I think a lot of communities probably should be looking at negotiating a merge.

Strong agree

Blaze , 5 months ago

This was only possible because the scale of users on a community is very low (<5000). Bigger communities have inertia effect in play.

40k of us literally left Reddit to come here due to malevolent actions from Reddit.

Migration is different from being able to view all posts of same topic community in a meta form.

Do all people interested in gaming see the discussions happening at hexbear and beehaw on those topics? The meta form seems to deny that there is a reasons why different communities exist on the same topic.

Blaze , 5 months ago

Very interesting, thank you for this

Blaze , 5 months ago

There might need to be a revamp of the logo to make it a bit more appealing.

What I could definitely see happening would be instance-based merch, especially if the community feeling is strong.

Blaze , 5 months ago

And on Lemmy some instances duplicate everything. For example beehaw

Are they not allowed to?

Beehaw exists for people who wanted a heavily-moderated space, and they seem to be doing well activity-wise. Do you want to force them with the rest of the instances?

Blaze , 5 months ago

Lemmy Community Feeder? https://github.com/Fmstrat/lcs

Blaze , 5 months ago

Yes, that's what I meant by security risk, that's like a DoS feature.

Blaze , 5 months ago

I'm curious too, depending on the instance, users can general escalate to admins, and then leave the instance if necessary.

Blaze OP , 5 months ago

They are cute

Blaze , 5 months ago

I guess that's the same for most of the userbase. Which is probably why switching to a more spread language could increase the number of contributors.