DropBear , to palestine group
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From a 93 year old (old enough to have lived through the times of the Holocaust and the founding of Israel) Jewish Australian:
"The impression I formed then, and which has been confirmed by subsequent events is that there was and is a deep, shared psychosocial illness infecting Israel but not Jews more generally."
...
"Let’s not confuse and generalise the attitude I and others have identified as underlying the conflict between Israel and Palestine with being anti-Semitic. This blurring of a clear boundary has been used inappropriately and misleadingly by many."
...
"... the human slaughter in Gaza and the enormous waste of resources on armaments to further that genocide could be stopped by refusing any more aid to Israel."
https://johnmenadue.com/israel-palestine-my-personal-experience-and-conversion/








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paninid ,
@paninid@mastodon.world avatar

@DropBear @NickSchwanck

I learned the term recently and it made me sad.

DropBear OP ,
@DropBear@theblower.au avatar

@paninid


both just forms of racism.
@NickSchwanck

DropBear OP ,
@DropBear@theblower.au avatar

One discriminates against people because of who they are @paninid the other discriminates in favour of people because of who they are. They're two sides of the same coin.


@NickSchwanck

paninid ,
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@DropBear @NickSchwanck

I think that does not mean “discrimination in favor”, the etymology of the prefix “philo” doesn’t imply exclusion, but appreciation or love for.

A philosopher loves wisdom, but doesn’t necessarily discriminate against those who are not wise.

DropBear OP ,
@DropBear@theblower.au avatar

To use your preferred terminology then @paninid One hates a people because of who they are. The other loves a people because of who they are. And yes, in practice, that "love" does exclude the "other".

Still two sides of the same coin. Still racism. @NickSchwanck

estelle , to random
@estelle@techhub.social avatar

"As conflation and confusion abound after 7 October, we need clear thinking about antisemitism"
by:
David Feldman, director of the Birkbeck Institute for the Study of Antisemitism,
Brendan McGeever, senior lecturer at the Birkbeck Institute for the Study of Antisemitism.

https://vashtimedia.com/2023/11/09/issues/antisemitism/hamas-israel-pogrom-antisemitism/

estelle OP ,
@estelle@techhub.social avatar

"The Campaign Against Antisemitism was formed in 2014, after a previous Israeli bombardment of Gaza. Its explicit founding purpose was to counter the antisemitism that arises in Britain when Israel pummels Palestinians and, implicitly, to defend Israel’s right to pummel. Chief executive Gideon Falter is also vice chairman of the Jewish National Fund UK, which is reported to have provided funding to the CAA in the past. The JNF enjoys charitable status and its existence predates the Balfour Declaration. For over a century, it has bought up land in historic Palestine, helped plan the Nakba, furthered exclusive Jewish settlement and transformed colonised land into parks and forests to erase what had been before."

On respectability politics and : https://vashtimedia.com/2023/12/01/formats/opinion/a-long-way-from-cable-street-antisemitism-march-palestine/ @history @histodons

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