I like the topic-oriented format of the fedi alternatives to reddit and had been using kbin.social, but that seems to have gone kaput. So I want to make an account on one of the alternatives. Looking for recommendations.
There are lots of lemmy instances and it appears there's also a fork of kbin called mbin, but not sure it's up to speed yet.
I've heard some negative feedback about lemmy, but maybe it applies only to certain instances of it, like the original one(?)
It's never easy for Fedi developers, especially if they're the ones leading a project!
Lots of respect to any dev who does any kind of work in building the Fediverse in free open source software. If they have to stop, they have still built code that others can build upon, as is the case with Mbin building upon Kbin. 👏
What's happening with #Lemmy and #Kbin these days? Are they both still being actively developed? Are they thriving? Did one win at the expense of the other? Or do they coexist without issue?
I've heard very little about either since the #Reddit situation blew up, but the situation with #StackOverflow has reminded me and it'd be great to understand w here things are with them now. Where would I go to see a functioning Reddit replacement on the #Fediverse?
This noob is testing the interconnectivity of the #Fediverse:
The word out there on the Fediverse make it seem as if all the different tools (Mastdn/P-tube/Lemmy/etc.) can interact with one another. But this is not the case, as some work both ways, whilst others only one way, or at all.
a) Using #Bridgyfed, to test between AT ( #BlueSky ) & AP protocols (Mastodon, etc.)
b) Meta's #Threads for testing with Mastodon.
c) Starting to test #Nostr with its peer-to-peer network.
TL;DR:
The #Fediverse holds a lot of promise, but it the ideal level of interconnectivity isn't there yet. (And yes, not all of them need to be able to connect and interact on the same level of details as with the others, as they are different tools.)
@BeAware Also would love one account to rule them all, but it doesn't seem to be the case, as they all interlink and inter operate in different ways. Trying to see which can do the most and in the best way.
Quote Posts, being able to limit them, and possibly being able to limit replies, is coming to Fediverse soon enough.
I am a bit worried about these features for all the same reasons that others are, as well.
However, I have another worry that I haven't seen talked about yet, because it's a limited experience so far.
Threads added the ability to limit Quote Posts yesterday and I've already played around with it to see how it works.
I'm worried about Mastodon using the same kind of way to limit Quote Posts as Threads.
Currently, the way Threads does Quote Posts, is that whenever you post a link to a post, it automatically turns into a quote post. Therefore, when you limit them, nobody can even link your post on the site at all.
That's currently how Threads Quote Post limiting works and that really sucks if that severe limitation would come to the wider Fediverse.
My worries might be unfounded. This might be not at all how Mastodon will be doing it and everything will be fine.
@BeAware I don't pay attention to the microblogging side of things that much (I'm more of a Lemmy guy), but how do the concerns around quote posts differ from linked posts? Quotes and links seem like the same thing to me, except maybe links won't have as good a preview as quotes do?
@Die4ever To me, that's THE difference, it's a barrier because not everyone would click the link. Also, this would limit it for DMs too, I would think, because of the way DMs are, they're just a "private" post, no difference......you see how that could be a dumb limit? Maybe not, but there's way's around that I guess.
Can just tell a person the other person's username and tell them to find the post themselves or just link up off-platform.🤷♂️
Just seems dumb. Especially with the amount of misinformation this can cause. People won't get their wrong info checked if they just limit replies and quotes....that's a big yikes for me.
Kinda wish there was more interoperability between Fedi platforms. Like if I see a dumb comment that makes absolutely no sense from a Lemmy account, I want to downvote it, but I can't unless I login to Lemmy.
@db0 facts. I'm actually still looking into moving off Mastodon because I don't agree with certain decisions they've made regarding moderation. Specifically, no decision.
I like Sharkey but iOS apps are thin. I would like to be able to keep my posts, if possible, which Sharkey allows, but I'm not sure which other software allows this that might have a good enough app I could use.🤷♂️
If your profile and posts are set to "public" and you can read this very post, you should have no sense of "privacy" here on Fedi. That means ANYONE can reply.
There's 20,000+ instances and new ones every day, there's NO WAY to tell who is accessing your posts or what they're doing with them.
Fediverse is not some kinda "bastion for privacy" nor is there any sort of "consent" required to see your posts if they are public.
The only way you can be 100% sure that your followers are the only ones that directly see your posts is to make your profile and posts private. Even then, screenshots exist.
Remember, you're on the internet. Once you post it, it's probably not going away. This is true everywhere.
Some people get replies and just do not engage at all....
Like, what is the point of posting to social media if you're not even gonna be SOCIAL?!?🤦♂️
Especially Fedi, cause it's not like we have some dumb ad service that pays you for views...You ain't making money here unless you're posting off-platform links to buy stuff.
I just don't get it. It's social media. Not "shout to the void and ignore everyone" media.🙄
@BeAware non-zero amount of people are effectively a relay. dunno if that's what the people you're talking about are doing, but it's more common than it should be
Well, I have deleted the Threads app. They don't seem interested in integrating in good faith, unfortunately. Therefore I don't see any point in advocating for them further.
Federate with them if you wish, but my first hand experience with their dev team has been completely in bad faith on their part...🤦♂️
I said it elsewhere, but I say it here too, I HATE how corporate social media sites have taken SOCIAL out of social media.
Thankfully the Fediverse is mostly taking that back. But if we don't expand to get those that are still on corporate social media to move here, then we'll just become the echo chambers we hate. That's why the Threads integration is a good thing. We need to expand.
@BeAware@tchambers My thinking is similar in part and different in part. The growth in the other sites is driven by addicting others to engagement, for profit. It’s built into their business model. Thus: There is indeed no need to fear growth here, because people who are addicted to and/or profit from clicks and likes, won’t find too many like-minded targets here. (1/2)
It's so crazy to me to think that I was on Xhitter for like 4 years and had a total of about 120 followers, most of which were spammers messaging me about "stream graphics".
I've been on Fedi for less than a year and have 5x that amount of followers and probably only enough spammers to count on one hand. I love this place.
@BeAware It’s so much better on Mastodon. People on X/Twitter/Muskapp would rarely hold conversations, just chime in with “well actually” or a whirlwind of trolling or insults.
Here, everyone seems genuine. Everyone is approachable. I’ve only blocked one person so far, and even then, I found out that almost everyone does 😅
@BeAware I guess I’m lucky that I don’t have a lot of followers 😂. I bet if there were more, I’d have a larger blocklist. But I’ve been lucky here… only really witnessed a lot of really awesome people. This is definitely much better than any other platform I’ve used.