N00dle ,
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After more than 30 years of dropping bombs on similar groups you would think the U.S.A would realize it doesn't work. The military has become a joke. Things like this just embolden bigger nations. Iran, Russia, North Korea, and soon China (don't believe they want armed aggression, at least not yet).

Let's tell Ukraine what they can and can't do with weapons provided. Meanwhile Israel get to do whatever the fuck it wants bombing civilians to kill a few potential targets. More will just take their place. If Israel wants more weapons and money they should go ask their Russians friends.

fuckingkangaroos ,

Hey cool, another propaganda community to block.

brain_in_a_box ,

Which sources don't you consider propaganda?

ComradeChairmanKGB ,
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Whatever their mommy tells them when they get their diapers changed.

ShimmeringKoi ,
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Dying empire flails impotently in support of a genocide, more at 11

queermunist ,
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Reminder that the Red Sea attacks have still resulted in zero casualties. In response, the US-UK has killed 22 fighters.

Disrupting trade is punishable by death.

eatthecake ,

So is being gay if you're in Yemen. I can't say i have any sympathy for them. If you attack passing ships you can't complain about retaliation.

Alsephina OP ,

Prevents poor country from progressing socially or economically through wars and genocides for decades

Complains about their lack of social progress

Bruh.

If you attack passing ships you can’t complain about retaliation

If you commit and support a fucking genocide you can't complain about having your supplies blocked. Would you not support blocking supplies to nazi Germany either?

GeneralEmergency ,

Attacking civilian ships is generally considered a dick move.

Alsephina OP ,

It's a gigachad move and the only morally correct thing to do when they're supplying a genocide.

MooDib ,

But they're not just attacking ships supplying aid to Israel. They are attacking whatever passes by them. If it was to support Gaza, why would they have attacked a clearly marked Chinese ship?

Alsephina OP ,

attacked a clearly marked Chinese ship

Pretty sure they stopped attacking Chinese and Russian ships since they stopped supplying "israel" and co. through the Red Sea after the Yemeni gov told them to. There were a few misfires after that but for the most part they're left alone.

Hell, a br*tish ship misqueraded as a Chinese ship a few days ago to avoid being attacked. Probably why Yemen is ending up hitting a few Chinese ships too.

Regardless, China has condemned the US and UK's bombing of Yemen. As anyone with a hint of morals should.

GeneralEmergency ,

And that is the move betacuck response you could have given.

Nudding ,

Any rebuttal to the comment or just ad hominem bullshit?

Alsephina OP ,

I'd say supporting a genocidal colony with billions of dollars instead of your own country's healthcare and education is about the most "betacuck" thing you can do lmao

Also, what are you, a child?

queermunist ,
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Genocide is fine, tho. 👀

GeneralEmergency ,

Because two wrongs always make a right. You projecting prick.

queermunist ,
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This is no different from sanctions if you bother to think about it. Sure it's more scary, but they aren't killing people. That should count for something. They're just limited by their material conditions and doing whatever they can to stop the genocide.

Alsephina OP ,

Bengalis, Cubans, Vietnamese, etc shouldn't have fought against their oppressors and liberated their nations then? Cuz killing people is wrong and two wrongs don't make a right ig?

GeneralEmergency ,

Holy hell. What a massive assumption.

I've never seen someone try and treat the world as so black and white. Yikes.

Alsephina OP ,

Do you have an actual response or just the black and white take that "two wrongs don't make a right"?

GeneralEmergency ,

You seem to be conflating me condemning Houthi attacks on unarmed vessels as supporting Israel.

It is clear you only think in black and white. Especially if you're calling Houthi gigachads, you might want to look into who you're supporting.

Alsephina OP ,

I'm supporting those trying to stop an active genocide. Unlike you apparently.

Nudding ,

Why did they attack those ships?

Overzeetop ,

Picking a fight with a superpower is generally a poor idea. Killing military members - even in Jordan - might be considered a bit beyond mere commerce.

queermunist ,
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That was a different group. I guess they're all the same to you, huh?

Overzeetop ,

I've edited my post for accuracy, it was genuinely an honest mis-remembering of the attack; thank you for the clarification.

naturalgasbad ,

All brown people are the same ig

Flumpkin ,

The US helped Saudi Arabia bomb the shit out of Yemen for a long time (search). I'm not properly educated about this myself but there are war crimes, starvation, a lot of shit. I mean you can't keep up. But to them, enforcing sanctions against Israel creates local support, otherwise they are a pretty bad Islamist regime. The Houthis are also not proxys of Iran. So US bombing them probably helps them too internally.

But there is so much shit going on that it's hard to keep up.

clay830 ,

Red sea attacks... so just leave out the US soldiers killed.

queermunist ,
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Different group. Turns out, lots of people in that region hate the US!

shalafi ,

Disrupting trade is punishable by death.

At this scale? Yes. Fucking up global trade at this level hurts people all over the planet. The downstream pain reaches into millions of households.

And if that hurt isn't enough for you, it's clearly terrorism. And your plan is to let it stand because there haven't been any deaths?

queermunist ,
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My plan is to force Israel to stop the genocide.

And they aren't shutting down all global trade. Just ships going to or from Israel. Sanctions, essentially.

Alsephina OP ,

Damn those ships and countries should probably consider not supplying a genocide then.

Alsephina OP ,

This is the fourth time they're bombing Yemen since the Yemeni government started blocking ships supplying "israel"

TWeaK ,

4th time since January. The Houthis (not the Yemeni government) have been attacking ships in the Red Sea since October/November.

Alsephina OP ,

4th time since January

Ah my bad.

Houthi/Ansarallah are the main Yemeni government though, with over 80% of the population under their governance with popular support. Regardless of whether foreign countries or those supporting the genocide recognize that or not.

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