Gsus4 , (edited )
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Even in petrostates? But most petrostates are not run by the people or for their people, so petrostates will keep being petrostates until demand for oil in EU/China/India dries up. https://www.worldstopexports.com/crude-oil-imports-by-country/

_sideffect ,

Meaning what exactly?

I'd like to hear their plans on how exactly they want us to stop using oil "quickly"

Mothra ,
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"And YOU get a FREE EV! And YOU get and EV! And YOU! EVERYBODY GETS AN EV!!!"

frazw ,

I guess it's "I don't want to use fossil fuels but I don't have an alternative. Give me an alternative! Don't have one? Then I'll keep using fossil fuels"

In fairness though not using fossil fuels it's something of a luxury at present. EVs are more expensive that non EVs. Maybe this will change but slowly.
Home solar is very expensive and still doesn't get you self sufficient in most cases. Power companies need to make the grid renewable to make it accessible to the average person for home power.

_sideffect ,

I find it funny when people associate fossil fuels with cars ONLY.

Almost everything you have on you right now, and in your home, was made using oil.

That's why I asked what I did; I'm all for not using oil and moving to a cleaner approach, but no good solution has been proposed yet, and people that want to do it cold turkey are fools that don't know any better.

vividspecter ,

Most people are talking about fossil fuels in terms of electricity and transport, which can and should be transitioned to renewable energy and electric vehicles as fast as possible (ideally with some people moving away from cars altogether).

And the poll itself is specifically talking about renewable energy, so it's not like the article is confused on that point.

Yes, manufacturing is a harder problem, especially when it's not just used as an energy source. But the easier problems need to be attacked as quickly as possible to reduce the risk of runaway climate change.

JustARaccoon ,

Give more renewables at least the same incentives and funding oil is getting, and get more nuclear ready. Yes, nuclear is safe, look it up

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