"As soon as Kyiv agrees to fully withdraw from Luhansk, Donetsk, Kherson, and Zaporizhzhia and starts this process, we are ready to start negotiations,” Putin said on Friday.
Putin also demanded that the West lift all sanctions against Russia, and that Moscow's claims to the territories of Crimea, Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson be recognized internationally.
Is that all?
You assholes don't even hold Kherson. And you want Ukraine to withdraw and give it to you, after having chased you out of the capital already, as part of the peace agreement? (Did it get recaptured and I missed it or something? This honestly sounds like I must be missing something.)
I can see why they didn't bother inviting Russia.
Edit: No, I didn't miss anything. They want Ukraine to retreat from their advancing front line (or, well, advancing as of a year and a half ago and then stalled) and give them back again the territory that Ukraine already un-stole, in exchange for stopping shooting back against Ukraine's advance. Good luck gentlemen.
You did, albeit not in the direction you're thinking!
Just a day ahead of the peace conference, to which Russia was not invited, Putin articulated Russia’s demands for peace: Ukraine must give up the entire four regions that Russia occupies part of, demilitarize, and drop its aspirations to join the NATO defense alliance.
They also demanded that Ukraine "demilitarize" and permanently stay out of NATO, I assume because Russia would like to hold the threat of hard power over Ukraine and (a) isn't willing to fight NATO and (b) has discovered that fighting a militarized Ukraine isn't all that much fun.
Yeah, fair play. I didn't even see the demilitarize thing.
Honestly, it doesn't really matter. They already know Ukraine's going to tell them to go get fucked; they just want to be able to say that they're the party that presented a peace proposal which Ukraine would have loved to sign but the West vetoed, knowing that no one of consequence will believe that. Why they are doing that is becoming less and less clear to me as time goes on.
I don't know if the aim is honestly to look reasonable. Like, okay, take your earlier statement:
You assholes don’t even hold Kherson. And you want Ukraine to withdraw and give it to you, after having chased you out of the capital already, as part of the peace agreement?
It's actually even more improbable than asking for it as part of the peace agreement. They're demanding it as a precondition to start negotiations for a peace agreement. Like, the Dnipro River is a geographical barrier to Russia. Ukraine would have to withdraw from all of the territory, letting Russia's forces across that barrier, and Russia says that then they would start talking about terms for peace.
Yeah. I think their interpersonal communication style involves dictating insane terms to people who can’t fight back so they have to accept them, or else try to resist and get punished. They’re literally just incapable of dealing with people they don’t have dominant power over, so they just keep pretending they do like a demanding teenager, thinking it makes them look “strong” or else just doing it from force of habit and because they don’t know what else to do.
BÜRGENSTOCK, Switzerland — Kyiv will not respond to ultimatums, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy's top adviser said on Saturday, reacting to proposals put forward by the Kremlin to resolve the war in Ukraine.
"Ultimatums don't work with Ukraine, and our people proved that on the battlefield in the past two years,” Yermak said.
Putin also demanded that the West lift all sanctions against Russia, and that Moscow's claims to the territories of Crimea, Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson be recognized internationally.
Even though Russia and China were not present, Yermak still called the summit a victory due to the wide attendance from all continents of the world, including some Russia-leaning African and Global South countries.
The first summit is focused on just three points: nuclear and food safety and the return of Ukrainian POWs and children abducted by Russia.
“Principles of the future of joint plan that would be based on peace formula but we are very open to all opinions of all countries, who respect international law," Yermak said.
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