How responsive is your Nextcloud?

My Nextcloud has always been sluggish — navigating and interacting isn't snappy/responsive, changing between apps is very slow, loading tasks is horrible, etc. I'm curious what the experience is like for other people. I'd also be curious to know how you have your Nextcloud set up (install method, server hardware, any other relevent special configs, etc.). Mine is essentially just a default install of Nextcloud Snap.

Edit (2024-03-03T09:00Z): I should clarify that I am specifically talking about the web interface and not general file sync capabilites. Specifically, I notice the sluggishness the most when interacting with the calendar, and tasks.

SDK ,

Same.

I’ve always run Nextcloud as a docker behind an NGINX/Let’s Encrypt proxy and login sometimes takes over a minute, even if I access the Nextcloud docker directly without the proxy. It’s a very frustrating experience to use a self hosted Nextcloud.

Kalcifer OP ,
@Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works avatar

Which docker did you use, out of curiosity?

SDK ,

This one:
https://hub.docker.com/_/nextcloud/

solrize ,

Mine is not great but is ok. Main special thing I did was put it on a vps very close to home, for short ping time. That was to get lower latency voice chat with nextcloud talk, but I haven't been using that at all.

TheCorminator ,

What hardware are you running it on? I set mine up originally on a raspberry pi 3b and the web interface was very slow, but upgrading it to a RPi4 with 4GB RAM made a massive difference. Though I suspect some of that was that the data and database were being stored on an external SSD in both cases, the RPi4 had a usb 3 interface and dedicated Ethernet, but the 3b had a single USB 2 bus to share between the Ethernet and SSD.

Engywuck ,

MIne is on a RPi4 4 GB as well (the AIO container) with two SSD and the performance of the frontend are meh... But I seldom use the web part anyway and mainly rely on the desktop client/android App, which work just fine.

n3ur0n ,

Mine runs very smoothly. I set it up on a Raspberry Pi 4 (4GB) with an external 1TB drive. I run it in docker with the official (?) image and can't remember having set any special config.
If you have any questions, I'm happy to answer them. :)

Kalcifer OP ,
@Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works avatar

Which docker are you using? Is it the AIO docker?

n3ur0n ,

I had to look it up. It's the community image (apache version) from https://hub.docker.com/_/nextcloud/ which I use together with a mariadb and redis image.

SGG ,

Mine is nice and quick in regards to the web interface and general functions. However I run it on a server at home and my upload speed isn't the best, so if I need to pull a larger file (Files On Demand enabled) then obviously the transfer speed of the file is a bit sluggish.

Hosted on a VM with 16GB RAM, 4 cores. Using the NextcloudAIO docker deployment option, all behind an Apache reverse proxy (I have a bunch of other services on another VM that all have reverse proxy access in place as well).

Kalcifer OP ,
@Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works avatar

Did you do anything special configuration-wise, or did you, more or less, just deploy the AIO docker as-is?

SGG ,

Nothing too special, just had to do some fiddling to get the Apache reverse proxy working correctly. Now I believe they have a pre-made example for it, but back then they only had nginx. I stick with Apache because that's still what I know. Might start learning nginx, but my main work isn't in web stuff.

NateNate60 ,

Mine is... eh. It's alright. I don't use any of the apps. Just the actual sync functionality. Sometimes when I'm moving files around there's a problem where the entire thing just stops responding. My MediaWiki instance still works, just not Nextcloud. Not sure why this happens and not sure if it also happens to other people.

For comparison, it is running on a Contabo VPS M

JASN_DE ,

Docker behind a Traefik proxy with crowdsec checking (adds additional lag). Ryzen 2700x 32GB local machine. All storage on SSD.

The web interface is very usable, switching subpages takes maybe half a second max without it being cached by the browser.

Could of course be quicker (as basically everything ever), but as we mostly use it with the Windows sync clients and Android apps we never really have any issues.

Kalcifer OP ,
@Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works avatar

Which docker image do you use? AIO?

JASN_DE ,

No. This installation is so old it precedes the AIO image. "Standard" docker image, redis, mariadb.

MaggiWuerze , (edited )

Dito. It's not blazing fast, but always usable and fast enough. Especially with Redis and Postgres

rambos ,

I run linuxserver.io docker container, disabled almost all apps and its been running rock solid and quite fast on old celeron. It takes 3-5 sec to open a web page, but I mostly use desktop/android app anyway

bjoern_tantau ,
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

Pretty sluggish for me as well. Bare metal install with Apache, PHP 8.3, since a few days PostgreSQL and the whole Redis memcached opcache whatevercache stuff. Next step would be to check if the AIO Docker is the magical thing that makes it fly.

Some 8 core CPU I'm too lazy to look up, 16 GB RAM and two HDDs. SSDs would probably help, I guess.

jeena ,
@jeena@jemmy.jeena.net avatar

Mine has always been slow. I started on a raspberry pi but later on a NUC and even on my VPS at Hetzner, it was always like you describe. Because I only used it for calendar, adressbook and sharing a few files I replaced it with Radicale for CalDav and CardDav and Syncthing for sharing files.

halm ,
@halm@leminal.space avatar

Yeah, me too. Nextcloud is way too unwieldy for basic usage like calendar/contact/even file sync. I tried a couple collaboration tools but they only stuttered and crapped out.

I'm actually fine hosting several smaller, dedicated services for the features I need rather than one lumbering point of failure.

CoopaLoopa ,

Spent a full day setting up Nextcloud so I could file sync my machines and share files externally.
It was slow as hell and didn't work half the time.

Spent 10 minutes spinning up Syncthing and FileBrowser containers and have had zero issues with them since.

Clearwater ,

Docker, using the nextcloud:stable image (not-all in-one) with postgres, behind nginx, and finally ZFS with 2x modern HDDs for storage. I run the stock apps plus a small handful, and have carried the same database through many versions over the last 5 years.

It's usable, but definitely not snappy.

The web interface for files is fine. Not instantaneous at all but not a huge problem. I have about 1TB of files (images and videos) in one folder, then varying files everywhere else. I suspect that the number of files (but probably not the size) is causing the slowdown.

Switching to, for example, the notes app is incredibly slow, and the NC Android app is just as bad.

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RPi Raspberry Pi brand of SBC
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Foofighter ,

Mine runs very smooth.
I guess it's a matter of hardware or Ressource allocation?

I have a fujitsu thin client with a 4 core Celeron CPU and 8gb RAM. Nextcloud and Maria DB run in separate containers in proxmox.

I am the only user. I have only office, face recognition and maps installed. Other than that I use calender, contact and Foto sync.

mhzawadi ,

My nextcloud was almost instant, then the upgrade to v28 seems to have broke a load of things and now is very slow.

  • nginx LB in LXC
  • qemu vm with PHP and nginx on it
    • as many PHP optimisations as I can find
  • qemu vm with just mysql
    • as many MySQL optimisations as I can find
  • docker notify thing on the docker swarm vms

All on the same host with other things

atzanteol ,

Have you created any indexes the new release might have needed? Nextcloud doesn't create them by default.

https://help.nextcloud.com/t/some-indices-are-missing-in-the-database-how-to-add-them-manually/37852

mhzawadi ,

I've been through everything on the install guide and update I can find, it looks to be the groupfolders app that looks for expired items every 5 minutes. It gets better if I stop Cron or delete the job

atzanteol ,

Yeah - that's reasonable. I brought it up since it's the #1 thing I always forgot about for some time and now it's the first thing I check.

poVoq ,
@poVoq@slrpnk.net avatar

Configuring a Redis cache really helps in my experience.

But I also recently noticed something odd: it works quite well on my usual internet connection, but when I traveled abroad it became excruciatingly slow, more so than the admittably worse mobile connection would have let me assume. Something about it seems to require a relatively stable internet connection on the client side it seems.

maiskanzler ,

That might be due to your ISP's routing and interconnects. They usually have good routes to big services and might lack good connections between home users in different countries or on different continents.

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