Omega_Haxors ,

They're cute as long as you're out of ear (and nose) range.

jawa21 ,
@jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Not to mention that seal finger is horrific. Don't fuck with seals.

nonfuinoncuro ,

yeah that's enough internet for me today

variants ,

I guess that's why sea otters murder and rape seal pups

Senseless ,

In that order?

variants ,
Senseless ,

Huh. Maybe I am an otter.

wahming ,

Are the morals of a cat actually any better?

Kyrgizion ,

I was just about to say that all the cats I've known had the intelligence of toddlers and the morals of seagulls.

ProfessorOwl_PhD ,
@ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net avatar

intelligence of a toddler and morals of a seagull

That's just a dog. Anyone with a dog knows this.

conditional_soup ,

Morals of a seagull fucking got me

ThePyroPython ,

Seagulls are vicious and vindictive bastards.

ChicoSuave ,

An amoral, thieving, all-terrain plaguebearer.

Unforeseen ,
@Unforeseen@sh.itjust.works avatar
AlligatorBlizzard ,

The real winged rats. Pigeons are generally nice enough, seagulls will swoop down and steal your whole basket of french fries out of your hands.

ChicoSuave ,

I would never besmirch rats. Rats have compassion and intelligence and humor. If I wanted to compliment a seagull then I would call it a winged rat.

AlligatorBlizzard ,

I like rats, and I knew I'd rightly get this response. But a NYC rat would definitely steal a whole pizza from you if you gave it the opportunity.

ChicoSuave ,

Rats learn behavior and it's echoing NYC.

Zerush ,

Seagulls are smart motherfuckers

Diabolo96 ,

The morals of a seagull ??? Now, I am scared!

Bishma ,
@Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Yeah, Sea Lions are obnoxious and destructive but not usually malicious. But Seals can be mean just for fun. They would make excellent early 2000s prank show hosts.

TIMMAY ,

Id guess most people think of fur seal pups or something when they think of seals. I think of the leopard seal. Mean motherfuckers

zqwzzle ,

So what I’m hearing is they’re sea huskies

perishthethought ,

Do huskies have the morals of a seagull?

zqwzzle ,

Do most animals choose between right and wrong, or are they acting on instinct?

pearsaltchocolatebar ,

Huskies are definitely able to discern between right and wrong. They just don't care.

AngryCommieKender ,

Can confirm. My husky knows what she's supposed to do, she does what she wants as long as I don't say anything.

Omega_Haxors , (edited )

We used to think that animals couldn't feel pain now we know plants can. The whole idea animals just go off instinct is wildly outdated and comes from the junk science era of fascist human supremacy. They probably do have morals and they definitely don't align with ours.

That being said insects have a pretty good case for being instinct only considering they live such short lives but then again some bugs can go as far as recognize faces so maybe we're vastly underestimating their capabilities too. Slight tangent, their vision is also a lot better than we give them credit for too, segmented eyes have basically infinite depth of field and the vision quality isn't as bad as one would think.

Pelicanen ,

We used to think that animals couldn't feel pain now we know plants can.

There's a real big [citation needed] on this sentence.

Omega_Haxors , (edited )

Scientists: "Plants can communicate damage through a pathway exactly like a nervous system"

Google results: "Plants don't feel pain because they don't have a brain"

sigh I don't know what I expected. Fucking fascists... Sorry, can't cite this one because it goes against the agenda google wants to push.

Pelicanen ,
Omega_Haxors ,

Least brain-broken take. That's like taking an econ class and saying "I'm not seeing any evidence capitalism is a broken failing system"

Pelicanen ,

No, that's like saying that capitalism is an infallible system, searching for evidence that capitalism is infallible, not finding any, then concluding that it's just the internet being brainwashed by leftists.

JoMiran ,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

I was going to say Sea-Min-Pin but the OP never used "on PCP" as a descriptor.

null ,
@null@slrpnk.net avatar

Semen pin, you say?

JoMiran ,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

Jokes like that risk the health and safety of your ankles.

Ephera ,

the intelligence of a toddler

Is that more or less intelligence than a cat?

Zachariah ,
@Zachariah@lemmy.world avatar

yes

Crackhappy ,
@Crackhappy@lemmy.world avatar

Inclusive or will get you every time.

Tolookah ,

It depends. If the toddler is trying to actively kill themselves, they are super smart AND fast. On the other hand, I'm told that some cats share a braincell, and if it's not their turn with it, then that's that.

It all depends on the frame of reference.

CitizenKong ,

Fun fact, trying to determine if a dog is more intelligent than a cat is nearly impossible because that it's hard to tell if the cat doesn't understand the test or just can't be bothered.

Zerush ,

The cat understand perfectly the test, but think that, if you like it so much, leave me alone and do it yourself. A dog is a pack animal and for this reason it obeys, yes or yes, the leader of the pack, the owner, a cat or felines in general, with the exception of lions, they are solitary hunters and do not have the concept of a leader, A cat sees you as an equal, at most a friend, but not as a leader. This has nothing to do with intelligence, but with the very nature of these animals.

Soku ,
Zerush ,

Exact this

ElderWendigo ,
@ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works avatar

Cats just require a different approach. But it's far from impossible to train them as long as you adapt, just as you would for any various species of animal. This guy has figured out how to train cats and he's hardly the only one.

Lots of cats big and small are very social, even if they don't form packs in the wild.

Zerush ,

Yes, cats can form groups when this offers them advantages in food and survival, as is frequently seen in stray cats, but they are anarchic groups, without fixed leadership. Naturally you can train cats, but only if they see an advantage in following what they have learned, they must be convinced to follow your instructions, which is much more complicated than in the case of dogs.

mindbleach ,

"Dogs will love you and defend you and hunt with you because you're part of the pack... whereas a cat is a tiny tiger that lives in your house."

-- CGP Grey, Animal Domestication

Zerush ,
tromars ,

Wasn’t there a study on cats that concluded something like „cats know when you call their name but just don’t care“?

pearsaltchocolatebar ,

That's correct. Although all 7 of ours will come when called.

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