wdlindsy ,
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Yesterday, I shared a statement from the editor of Cleveland's Plain Dealer, Chris Quinn. He states,

"The facts involving Trump are crystal clear, and as news people, we cannot pretend otherwise, as unpopular as that might be with a segment of our readers. There aren’t two sides to facts. People who say the earth is flat don’t get space on our platforms. If that offends them, so be it."


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https://www.cleveland.com/news/2024/03/our-trump-reporting-upsets-some-readers-but-there-arent-two-sides-to-facts-letter-from-the-editor.html

James ,
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@wdlindsy How ironic, western Ohio is flat. That is truly a bold position there.

wdlindsy OP ,
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@James How ironic, indeed — when precious words are used to communicate gross unintelligence.

cranky_engineer ,
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@wdlindsy Amen.

punkhaiku ,
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@wdlindsy Really enjoyed the article. Thanks for bringing attention to it. I've saved it to pass on to those who, in future, seem like they need to hear it.

wdlindsy OP ,
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@punkhaiku You're welcome. I thought it was really good, too, and well worth sharing.

LaNaehForaday ,
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@wdlindsy

Here is the article outside of the paywall.

https://archive.ph/Dpc4L

wdlindsy OP ,
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@LaNaehForaday Thank you. I hit a paywall when I clicked on the article, then switched to another browser, and it opened for me.

wdlindsy OP ,
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It was interesting to see how that statement struck a nerve with some folks, who replied to it with childish what-about memes – What about Kathy Griffin and the stunt she pulled re: Trump and a severed head?

As if that's any kind of meaningful response to or argument about a statement that facts matter and people who don't want to deal in facts don't deserve an editorial platform….

What-aboutism is truly all these folks have.


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wdlindsy OP ,
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What-aboutism coupled with toxic disinformation and conspiracy-mongering such as we're now seeing in the wake of the Baltimore disaster: it's all the US political right has any longer.

What they're showing us is that their goal never has been about governing in constructive ways in line the originating principles they claim to honor. It's about tearing down and destroying, not building up or collaborating.

And who needs that?


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MasterMischief ,
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@wdlindsy Wait. When was Kathy Griffin running for political office?

wdlindsy OP ,
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@MasterMischief Touché.

katrinakatrinka ,
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@wdlindsy
The thing that's not commonly known is what happened to Kathy Griffin.

It wasn't shrugged off. She was interrogated, threatened, investigated, put on the no fly list, fired from all her jobs and unable to get a gig for years. Highly stressful huge ramifications.

https://www.vulture.com/article/kathy-griffin-owns-it-interview.html

wdlindsy OP ,
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@katrinakatrinka That's right. But the facts don't matter to those employing this meme simply to try to bash down a point they do not want the public to hear. They aren't really in the truth, fact, or logic business.

katrinakatrinka ,
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@wdlindsy
My argument is that you can interrupt that by saying, "You're right! Trump should be interrogated, investigated, put on the no fly list, and lose all his businesses, too."

wdlindsy OP ,
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@katrinakatrinka Yes, that's a good way to handle this matter, for sure.

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