GottaLaff ,
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🤦🏻‍♀️ #Trump’s lawyers have filed several motions to dismiss the classified #documents case in #Florida, citing, among other things, presidential immunity and arguing special counsel #JackSmith was unlawfully appointed. #legal

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/22/politics/trump-moves-dismiss-classified-documents-case?cid=ios_app

Bam ,
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@GottaLaff @PandaChronicle

Generally, I’d guess they are trash with no chance of success, but in that case, I’d only be half right.

bronakins ,
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@GottaLaff

RuhRoh! So trump is trying to set up a conflict among circuits on whether a former president has immunity for crimes committed while in office. (Is this is what sCOTUS has been waiting for by not promptly affirming DC Circuit ruling against trump immunity?)

First trump gets Loose Cannon to quickly (relatively) rule that he has immunity (her opinion is already prepared) and then Special Counsel must appeal to 11th circuit, which affirms or lets Cannon ruling stand — and BOOM! we’re in the classic two circuits in conflict—forcing sCOTUS to grant cert & necessitating a full time-consuming sCOTUS review of presidential immunity—maybe as late as next term!

GottaLaff OP ,
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@bronakins Probably, but if SCOTUS finally rules (soon, I mean), won’t that end it?

dbc3 ,
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@GottaLaff @bronakins

If that is the shitgibbon's game plan, SCOTUS better get off their asses. Take a page from Engoron's book: "No. Sit down."

bronakins ,
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Yes. It would tie Cannon’s & the11th Circuit’s hands. Here’s hoping! 🤞🏽

Ps—My first thought upon waking this am was that they might rule today.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@bronakins 🤞🏼

Bam ,
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@GottaLaff @bronakins

Not necessarily. The decision is by the DC Circuit. If SCOTUS denies the stay and denies cert, that doesn’t necessarily mean an endorsement of the DC Circuit decision.

So the DC Circuit decision would be persuasive, but not binding, because Cannon is in the 11th. She’s not required to follow decisions of the DC Circuit, just decisions of the SCOTUS and the 11th.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@Bam No, I’m saying if SCOTUS ruled against Trump: No immunity. @bronakins

Bam ,
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@GottaLaff

That’s assuming they took the case on the merits, which I’m suggesting is not the likely way for them to rule against him with a very good DC Circuit opinion. IMHO it is the more likely is for them to deny his stay request and deny certiorari. If the Eleventh loses its mind in the Florida case (assuming Cannon rules quickly) and conflicts with the DC Circuit, then they’d have to get their hands dirty.

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wc_thats_me ,
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@GottaLaff how many delays are they allowed to fabricate. Over and over, day after day these are filed in his cases. I'm more than ready for him to be held accountable and see a from you.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@wc_thats_me I cannot WAIT for that Wompage.

sadele2 ,
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@GottaLaff

@emptywheel posted links to the motions. No analysis or commentary yet, aside from her titles for the motions:

"Trump’s claim of presidential immunity to steal documents"

"Trump’s claim that he’s too stupid to understand 18 USC 793(e)"

"Trump’s Special Counsel claim (repeating Hunter Biden’s appropriation claim)"

"Trump’s claim the Presidential Records Act says the opposite of what it says with assist from John Solomon"

https://www.emptywheel.net/2024/02/22/stolen-documents-motions-to-dismiss/

PandaChronicle ,
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@GottaLaff
FFS

oreoteeth ,
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@GottaLaff A clever child could probably build a better lawyer out of Legos than the idiot's current representation. I love to watch them flounder and keep trying the same failed tactics.

ReallyBlue2 ,

@GottaLaff judicial terrorist

elronxenu ,
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@GottaLaff For an ex-president who was "allowed to do what I did," he sure hates making that case in court.

leswarden ,
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@GottaLaff With judge overseeing the case, all bets are off. Anything could happen. 🤯🤯

GottaLaff OP ,
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@leswarden (FYI, it’s “Aileen”… so your hashtag won’t work this way)

leswarden ,
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@GottaLaff Thanks! Not enough caffeine yet. 😵‍💫

GottaLaff OP ,
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@leswarden 👍🏼

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    GottaLaff OP ,
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    @Harrybear Nope. As I said, I post news as it breaks, no matter how I feel. 😊

    birdpoof ,
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    @GottaLaff

    Throwing all their feces at the wall and hoping something isn't cleaned off ASAP. To mix all the metaphors.

    DWTSquawk7600 ,
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    @GottaLaff haven’t those points already been litigated? You know what, I’m beginning to think that they’re filing all these motions just to delay. Hmmmm…could it possibly be?

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