luckytran ,
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There are many people who can't afford to take days off work even when they are ill. The CDC should be recommending that employers give workers paid sick leave, not making it easier for bosses to exploit workers by saying it's fine to work when you are sick.

epistatacadam ,
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@luckytran and there was simple minded me thinking that taking time off sick contributed to population health and productivity, by slowing transmission of infectious diseases, and speeding my personal recovery to maximum productivity and health as quickly as possible. Funny all that I was taught in med school to tell patients was wrong, glad CDC has cleared that up so quickly. Or is mixing whilst infectious still not a good idea? As CDC guidance still says that too!

LadyLiberty5591 ,
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libramoon ,
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@luckytran

what are these employers thinking -- oh, this person is sick and therefore not able to work well
make them work anyway (who cares about the mistakes) and infect the rest of my employees. That will certainly improve my bottom line.

khleedril ,
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@luckytran
Here in Europe we are absolutely laughing at this. One sneeze and we are practically marched out of the door!

tersenurse ,
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@luckytran amen!

antonyshen ,

@luckytran hello

RenRilla ,
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@luckytran yes!!

Richy222 ,
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LiveByReason ,
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@luckytran

How TF did the CDC get worse under Biden?

violinguy ,
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@luckytran people used to come into the call center and work and hacking coughs then spread through the whole room in a few days.

lymphomation ,
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@luckytran

IMHO the
should report on the science and say nothing about when to return to work or play.

Such as:

  1. when you are no longer infectious is best determined by ....

  2. When you are no longer infectious depends on ...

  3. In most cases it takes .... days.

  4. In some cases it is longer by .... days or weeks.

  5. Factors that influence your time to recovery include your age, immune status ....

PieterPeach ,
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@luckytran While more sick leave is absolutely necessary for many industries, the long term reality is that people will not be able to take enough sick leave to cover the entire infectious period of all the various circulating communicable diseases. We need a cultural shift towards wearing well fitting masks for the infectious period when well enough to work. Eg this example from Ontario Ministry of Health

penciledpage ,
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@luckytran

The US needs to change its attitude toward illness in workplaces and in schools.

Yeas ago, I remember my school having a perfect attendance award. My Mom remarked to me that it was a foolish prize that just encouraged students to go to school sick.

18+ AlgoCompSynth ,
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@luckytran The CDC bowed to political pressure. That is sad as all get-out but it is hardly surprising given the political environment.

We need energized voters and eloquent, energetic candidates to change that.

IceNine ,
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@luckytran

I've never understood this whole "no sick leave" there (we get 10 days a year minimum and it accumulates).

Not only is it counterintuitive (sick workers spread illness), but given the somewhat litiginous nature in the US, I would think it would leave a business open to a lawsuit.

I mean if someone got sick who visited a place of business where a sick worker was effectively made to work, well damn they are well right to be pissed off.

IceNine ,
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@luckytran

I've never understood rhis whole "no sick leave" there (we get 10 days a year minimum and it accumulates).

Not only is it counterintuitive (sick workers spread illness), but given the somewhat litiginous nature in the US, I would think it would leave a business open to a lawsuit.

I mean if someone got sick who visited a place of business where a sick worker was effextiveky made to work, well damn tbey are well right to be pissed off.

emjonaitis ,
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@luckytran This is my biggest concern too -- uncontrolled transmission is already priced in to our present, but I'm not as sure that the same is true for sick leave.

18+ Ttroika ,
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@luckytran

They are all in on it together medical practices have been taken over by corporations as well.

kenjiabe09 ,
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@luckytran hi Lucky, I'm trying to get better at understanding some of the science and technology that is being employed on me/effecting my life. Is there any way we can have a quick conversation so I can ask you about what I've been experiencing?

BruceMirken ,
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@luckytran I admit I did not have " acts as hatchet man for plutocrats" on my 2024 Bingo card.

ShredderFeeder ,
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@luckytran REQUIRING, not recommending.

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