peter ,
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unconditional support for someone who shouldn't be president as a model lmao

peter OP ,
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none of this would really matter imo if Biden weren't--by all known measures and according to everything anyone knows about American politics at this moment--definitely losing.

brendo ,
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@peter Arizona, Ohio and North Carolina tell us all we need to know. The incumbent president is going to lose while Democrats on the same state-wide ballot look likely to win. Joe Biden is simply NOT popular enough to beat Trump a second time.

peter OP ,
@peter@thepit.social avatar

@brendo and by margin of victory in the handful of swing states that mattered, he barely beat him the first time.

brendo ,
@brendo@masto.nyc avatar

@peter Exactly. He barely won Pennsylvania, the state of his birth. "I'm from Scranton!"

locksmithprime ,
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@brendo @peter
All this would be fine if we were talking about a conservative politician and a liberal one... but what we have is a distorted being, a lying machine on one side, and a principled, very old liberal on the other side. It should not even be close. Yet, here we are. I am very disappointed.

brendo ,
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@locksmithprime @peter Of course, it shouldn't be close. But the normal rules don't apply. Another great jobs report came out this morning. No effect. We're not going to see Americns go to into voting stations and have a sudden epiphany and switch to Biden. The frustrating crisis is that Biden has bled millions of votes since 2020, and those voters aren't voting in 2024. The votes are really shifting to Trump as much as Biden has simply lost core support.

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